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    Molly_Millions's Avatar
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    Molly Millions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    Why does that "blow"?
    If I get a raise, i should be able to take it immediately and not have to wait to time it just right.
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    Player Sidious's Avatar
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    Hexxus Lis
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    If I get a raise, i should be able to take it immediately and not have to wait to time it just right.
    If you get a raise, that means you died and deserve to stay dead. I don't think it's unreasonable that you should have to be clever about receiving this second lease on life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    If you get a raise, that means you died and deserve to stay dead. I don't think it's unreasonable that you should have to be clever about receiving this second lease on life.
    Wile dying is probably 90% certain that the player made a mistake you shouldn't punish the party by keeping them dead for the entire fight. The issue like a lot of people pointed out is that while being raised the player nor the healer can do anything to help the raised player. Random target abilities from bosses is a classic example of e game working against itself. If a healer can't target a player neither should the enemy or its abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    If you get a raise, that means you died and deserve to stay dead. I don't think it's unreasonable that you should have to be clever about receiving this second lease on life.
    If a player that died has to stay dead, tell me, why do WHMs have the ability to raise in battle?

    Yes, I died in the Titan fight, I made one mistake but died 3 times for it. That hardly seems like raise is working as intended.
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    Daeada Fehr
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    If a player that died has to stay dead, tell me, why do WHMs have the ability to raise in battle?

    Yes, I died in the Titan fight, I made one mistake but died 3 times for it. That hardly seems like raise is working as intended.
    To be fair, if you died 3 times, you made 3 mistakes. There are safe times to get up during Titan, obviously you didn't get up during them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    To be fair, if you died 3 times, you made 3 mistakes. There are safe times to get up during Titan, obviously you didn't get up during them.
    I disagree. I died once and couldn't raise due to poor design. Aren't you glad the devs seem to agree with me? After all you can't fix a problem that doesn't exist.
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    Player Sidious's Avatar
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    Hexxus Lis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    If a player that died has to stay dead, tell me, why do WHMs have the ability to raise in battle?

    Yes, I died in the Titan fight, I made one mistake but died 3 times for it. That hardly seems like raise is working as intended.
    I didn't say you have to stay dead. I said you deserve to stay dead. A WHM can raise in combat, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't need to be strategic about how and when you use that ability. Period.
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    Naomi Fordragon
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    I didn't say you have to stay dead. I said you deserve to stay dead. A WHM can raise in combat, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't need to be strategic about how and when you use that ability. Period.
    So when you die due to latency, that is also "your fault"?
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