Quote Originally Posted by MusouMugen View Post
Depends how you define end-game. But I'd argue any game with semi-decent PvP has had more endgame.

As for others: GW2, Secret world, Aion, as far as I'm concerned they all had more endgame than FFIV. And that's only few of the recent ones. So idk what the hell you remember.
Aion 1.5 had Dark Poeta(gear farm), Forts (lagfest) and the relic-instances (AP-relic farm) and Dredgion(AP farm) that was end game in 1.5. Back then people were complaining about the exact same thing we're complaining about now.

The MMO crowd is hard to please.