Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
No, you really can't. I have played every MMO since Ultima Online (technically I played AoL Neverwinter, but most don't know about that MMO) and there is not a single one that had significant endgame content at launch. You're either misremembering or looking back through rose-colored glasses. ARR actually has more than most.
Depends how you define end-game. But I'd argue any game with semi-decent PvP has had more endgame.

As for others: GW2, Secret world, Aion, as far as I'm concerned they all had more endgame than FFIV. And that's only few of the recent ones. So idk what the hell you remember.

Oh and my definition of endgame is: There's so much stuff to do, that I want to keep playing (and I play 5 hrs daily, more on weekends)..or hell, even if there's only 1 thing to do, if it's fun I can do it a lot. In FF...I do AK, bored. Levelling alts with fates...god no. Soulsucking gathering while watching teleporting bots...gtfo. Primals...Ifrit easy mode, Garuda pointless, Titan even more pointless after u get relic. Coil...stupid lock system (we have 3 tanks, 5 healers, X DPS in the guild...go make 8 man parties with that yo, specially with ppl quitting daily). Crafting...bah + to be really efficient at it, u need to level multiple crafts (oh joy).