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  1. #161
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    So a new MMO is supposed to have the equivalent of 2-20 expansions worth of endgame content on launch? Got it. Sounds unreasonable, but okay.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onolock View Post
    For me right now it's really log on Monday, knock out Coil 1-4 in an hour, 4 AK runs and log off. Since T5 is down right now, this week is pretty much shot. I'm working on leveling other classes, but this is a poor excuse for endgame that yes most MMO's have trended to. Fact is, I would have rather had a launch in November with CT and Coil, with BL coming in 2.2 + extra content to the existing dungeons. What gets me is releasing CT(a raid that will more than likely drop Ilvl 80 gear and be easier than your current content). It won't be long before Twintania is on farm now that she will be getting fixed. So basically, it's log in and clear Coil + CT in a night, cap Myth and wait for 2.2.

    2.2 is going to decide a lot about the game, and they need to release their plans for at least the first year so the community can see what kind of direction they are taking the game. It's a fantastic game, but it wasn't ready for a full release with the lack of content imo.

    It's like companies don't look at why other MMO's fail before making their own(Rift, Tera, Warhammer, AoC)
    This.

    It's too bad MMO developers are still stuck in the early 2000's. It's time to step up and offer more at the release of your game. It's 2013 now. We've seen SO many MMO's fail.. you would think other developers would learn something by now, eh? If you don't have the budget to put out more content at release, delay the damn thing.

    SE was in a special position, unlike some of these other companies/developers; this is a SECOND iteration of the SAME game. Not to mention our dear "savior" Yoshida-san is an experienced MMO player apparently, he knows what's up. He knows why these other games have fallen.

    As Onolock said, they should of really delayed the release.

    But you know what... all this is nullified by the fact that these companies have stock-holders and they want the game out ASAP. Gotta start making that paper, ya know? I'm sure in a perfect world Yoshida would of waited to release the game early next year.

    Or at least I'd like to think so.
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    Last edited by M4Fade; 10-10-2013 at 05:54 AM.

  3. #163
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    Resa Nome
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    Quote Originally Posted by M4Fade View Post
    This.

    It's too bad MMO developers are still stuck in the early 2000's. It's time to step up and offer more at the release of your game. It's 2013 now. We've seen SO many MMO's fail.. you would think other developers would learn something by now, eh? If you don't have the budget to put out more content at release, delay the damn thing.

    SE was in a special position, unlike some of these other companies/developers; this is a SECOND iteration of the SAME game. Not to mention our dear "savior" Yoshida-san is an experienced MMO player apparently, he knows what's up. He knows why these other games have fallen.

    As Onolock said, they should of really delayed the release.

    But you know what... all this is nullified by the fact that these companies have stock-holders and they want the game out ASAP. Gotta start making that paper, ya know? I'm sure in a perfect world Yoshida would of waited to release the game early next year.


    Or at least I'd like to think so.

    Yeah, and it's disappointing when you start thinking about 1.23 and that it arguably had more end-game content and I can't believe I'm saying this, but far better progression organization. There really needed to be more resources focused on post 50 content considering that they were building off of the previous version of the game.
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  4. #164
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    LordWyrme's Avatar
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    You sir/madam get an A++ for one of the greatest web spoofs ever... ^_^ now wait while I cast FLARE!

    Also while some MMOs are enjo- FLARE! Ahem- enjoyable, the MMO genre tends to breed the same idiocy in-game that leads to the same idiocy on the forums in posts that start like this one. Q.Q I'm bored! Make them magically make a ninety hour in one playthrough RPG into FLARE! a MMO with more content than I can ever do so I don't get bored, oh and it can't be like any MMO or RPG that has ever been made before because I'll just bitch about how WoW/EQ/GW did FLARE! it before a decade ago. And people wonder why the entire gaming community and industry with a few exceptions is going to complete shit in a handbasket. Any road Unforgetten Realms for life!!!
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfarjamie View Post
    Incessant complaining

    Seriously, why do people like this think that they're droll, boring, complaints about what they don't like, are important.

    I miss the days of the internet when stupid crap like this TC's post didn't exist, and incessant whining about stupid personal problems were kept offline.
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    I miss the days of the internet when stupid crap like this TC's post didn't exist, and incessant whining about stupid personal problems were kept offline.
    This actually happened? Man where we're these places online? Lol, course it's not like the OP is posting anywhere on the Internet where this inane whining would get the responses that would cause him to go kill himself or anything, cause well it's always better to complain in a forum where most everyone is nice and the only toxic trolls on it agree with you. ^_^
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    Seriously, why do people like this think that they're droll, boring, complaints about what they don't like, are important.

    I miss the days of the internet when stupid crap like this TC's post didn't exist, and incessant whining about stupid personal problems were kept offline.
    I miss the days when people listened to their own advice rather than continuing to spread the cancer with hypocritical posts.
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  8. #168
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    An mmo should have enough content so it can last till the next content update. Since Yoshi P. said "the game does not start till end game" what we have now is kind of pathetic.
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  9. #169
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    Then go play the mmo that fits your needs
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladon View Post
    Yeah, and it's disappointing when you start thinking about 1.23 and that it arguably had more end-game content and I can't believe I'm saying this, but far better progression organization. There really needed to be more resources focused on post 50 content considering that they were building off of the previous version of the game.
    I'll always miss 1.23. I think the game was going in a good direction. Me and my girlfriend were enjoying it. It's a shame Yoshida scrapped a lot of what made 1.23 good. I was hoping he would of built off more of what he had.
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