End game... Bored. The facts.

[Ladon]

It's just a waist of time to do it on one character then having to do it AGAIN on another.

Arcanist is a prime example, if you wanted SCH and SMN on different Characters you would have to level Arcanist ( SCH/SMN) twice all the way up to 50. Get THM to 15 and CNJ to 15.

I honestly don't think if I wanted to do alts, it would just be a waist of time.

Wait till they add more jobs that branch off from existing classes...

How is it possibly a waste of time when leveling another character nets you a ticket to a SECOND SET OF ENDGAME CONTENT?

Do you not realize that you could do Coil and AK the first half of the week on one character then do it again on the second character the second half of the week and actually make progress on BOTH characters in a single week? This isn't something possible with a single character.

[Pyrix]

We're sorry you're a no lifer who rushed all the content. Yawn. Move on.

[Starlord]

How is it possibly a waste of time when leveling another character nets you a ticket to a SECOND SET OF ENDGAME CONTENT?

I wasn't even talking about end-game at all in my posts. I'm speaking generally.

- Make a character all over again
- Gathering all over again
- Crafting all over again
- Main storyline again ( some parts won't allow you to skip through the texts) to even get to end-game with that character. At least with 1 Character you don't have to deal with the storyline again.

Personally, I don't think I wanna do things twice in an MMO, single player Yeah, but not in an MMO.------> which is why I DON'T play many MMO's because they follow that "do over again" mentality with a different looking character.

Do you not realize that you could do Coil and AK the first half of the week on one character then do it again on the second character the second half of the week and actually make progress on BOTH characters in a single week? This isn't something possible with a single character.

That only works if your the type of person that does "end-game" related stuff on a normal basis. I am the type of person that is well-rounded and doesn't stick to 1 job to dear life. and that cap is only there so they can slow down end-game progression so they can get more end-game in. Once Crystal Tower is in and maybe other End-game content we don't know about yet, they will most likely raise the cap or drop it completely. Then what? You made all those characters with only 1 job on them for nothing. ( unless you like that sort of thing then more power to ya).

[Onolock]

Wait till they add more jobs that branch off from existing classes...

Yes, I'm sure they have planned for many other Jobs in the future and base classes. At a minimum though, that is atleast 6-7 months off(if it's even in 2.2) The first year in an MMO nowadays is critical. Seperate lockouts for at least CT would be nice. The thing is, if you are clearing Coil, at least the gear you are getting can be used by at least 1 other Job(WHM and SCH) for example. Myth gear is useless for cross classing. The game seems to want you to play many different jobs, but really lacks the ability to do so right now.

[Sidious]

We're sorry you're a no lifer who rushed all the content. Yawn. Move on.

Early access was, what, August 24th? How is that rushing? The leveling curve is extremely shallow in this game. And the legacy people, myself included if I actually played that character, started at 50. How long do you expect people to sit around?

[Onolock]

Early access was, what, August 24th? How is that rushing? The leveling curve is extremely shallow in this game. And the legacy people, myself included if I actually played that character, started at 50. How long do you expect people to sit around?

Feeding the trolls...

[Evilchakra]

The OP is a pretty dead on accurate. Most of the reasons why I will not be subbing, as well as many of my friends.

The idea Yoshi keeps saying patch 2.1.... thats ALL you hear. That or responses to what i believe are very stupid questions on the forums. Replying to battle sounds... really?

Its like he just uses patch 2.1 to get around any major issue. I guess a brand new game will be coming out in this "Patch 2.1"?

[Gilthas]

I really can't be bothered with leveling another class, or another craft... One should suffice really so don't list it as a solution.

Late to the party but you basically just said "there's nothing to do in the game because I refuse to do the content that is available".

You do list a few real issues though. Those can only be solved with more content being added to the game. That's the problem with making games where reaching endgame is very fast, you run out of content just as fast.

[glim]

So you don't need swift cast and sure cast as a SMN?

reeeeally....

did you miss the part where I said, "cross class is only useful for cross class buffs" well I should have said cross class skills, but still how is this relevant? when you do decide to play a thauramage on that same character, you can't play it optimally as you did on a SMN, cause you've spent your myth tomes on the SMN class.

edit: which is why if you're planning alts, it's better to create a whole new character, that gives you access to another 300 tomes per week and a lock out for bahamut coil.

[Onolock]

Late to the party but you basically just said "there's nothing to do in the game because I refuse to do the content that is available".

You do list a few real issues though. Those can only be solved with more content being added to the game. That's the problem with making games where reaching endgame is very fast, you run out of content just as fast.

I know everyone talks about WoW blah blah...but they had a great history with end game stuff early on and even further on. For example in BC, Black Temple was released before a world first kill of Kael'Thas happened. All of the raids in vanilla were released within ~2 months of a world first kill of a previous kill. They continued this pretty much until WoTLK where times between content got longer and more casual. That type of mentality with content is why people played and stayed for so long. Unless you were on the bleeding edge of content which very few people are, there was always something to be doing.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Timeline_%28World_of_Warcraft%29
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/163...rld_first_list Source for dates and kills

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