Scholar Relic +1

[Mang]

For the record, this is pretty much opinion. Crit and speed, as in any game, appear to be equally ranked theory-wise. Stack the one you feel fits your style.

Crit is superior to spell speed in all cases for Scholars because of its interaction with Adloquium. Your calculation assumes Physick spam throughput only.

[cainejw]

Crit is superior to spell speed in all cases for Scholars because of its interaction with Adloquium. Your calculation assumes Physick spam throughput only.

I see absolutely no numbers to back your assertion up. Could you provide them?

Except that if we assume it is true that pets copy some percentage of your stats upon being summoned, than we know for a fact that SS is a useless stat to your pet where as crit on the other hand is very useful. Stacking crit means your pet will have a chance to crit allowing for it to proc a 20% SS buff for you which is already better than stacking SS. Then we have Adlo which needs high lvls of crit for the crit shield effect. Again, crit beats out SS. So imo it should really look like this (for SCH) W.dmg > MND > Det/Crit > SS > PIE This at least is how I see it personally.

Could you provide some math for this? I'm glad you included the last sentence, though. I think that's really the crux of you and Mang's posts. This is how you see it personally. That's fine if this is your opinion, but you shouldn't broadcast it as fact without any statistical backing.

However, I think you'll find yourself quickly worthless as a healer if you stack everything before piety. There's a reason that we, as Scholars, have piety everywhere and why spell speed and crit are flavor pieces. As someone who is running Coil 4, I could go for more Piety and less spell speed or crit. Sadly, we're stuck with useless Int boosts instead of more helpful Mind or Piety boosts.

Edit:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/118...=1#post5897918

Here's some information comparing crits and spell speeds to some degree. The max crit you can get on Ado is roughly 15% crit.

The max spell speed you can get, using the previous math of 10 points for .01, you can get a max of 139 spell speed from gear with the base spell speed being 341 for 480 spell speed or approximately .048 off your GCD and roughly .08 off your cast speeds. It's possible this could both be rounded to .05 GCD and .1 cast time.

So, the question is which is more appealing to you? 15% crit chance on Ado (three every 20 casts) or casting things .1s quicker with .05s shorter downtime? That's the essence of the discussion:

15% crit chance
or
1.9s cast 2.4s GCD

As for the +1 or Allagan discussion, depends on where you want to go. However, I'm a fan of balance, so I doubt I'll stack one or another. There's no reason to push either in abandonment of the other. Also, I'm more than sure the way armor looks will figure into decisions. Personally, I'll be gunning for more Allagan because I loathe Argute's look.

[Mang]

When Adloquium crits, so does the shield.