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  1. #1
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    icebalm's Avatar
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    Icebalm Sand'oria
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Don't Tell Others How to Play Their Jobs

    I'm playing SMN and I just came from an AK run where our SCH healer was ragging on me, right from the very first pull, about how bad of a player I am because I wasn't using a DPS rotation she thought was better.

    I was using Ruin II + Energy Drain, and he thought I should be using Ruin I + Fester because he thought it did more damage.

    Ruin I (2.45 cast time + 2.45 recast, 80 potency) + Fester (300 max potency)
    You can cast 9 Ruins and 3 Festers every 60 seconds: (9 * 80) + (3 * 300) = 1620 total potency damage per 60 seconds.

    Ruin II (instant + 2.45 recast, 80 potency) + Energy Drain (150 potency)
    You can cast 21 Ruin IIs and 3 Energy Drains every 60 seconds: (21 * 80) + (3 * 150) = 2130 total potency damage per 60 seconds.

    A difference of 510 potency, or 32% more damage. This is not an insignificant amount.

    So please, just let players play how they want. Just because they're not following the norm, doesn't mean they're bad players.
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    Ruri's Avatar
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    Ruri Valeth
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Both are wrong!
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    Aly Kin
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    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 90
    Ruin I (2.45 cast time + 2.45 recast,

    right there is your problem. Ruin I (and any spell with a cast time) starts it's recast timer when you START casting, not when it finishes. So the total time to cast and recast is 2.45 seconds, not 2.45+2.45/.
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    Jayvir Deforte
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 50
    There really isn't a "best way" to do a lot of things, but there are some noticeable ways to do things completely incorrectly. I've seen BLM completely neglect Blizzard to regen mana and I've seen tanks never use Flash or Overpower for multiple mobs.
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    Teisha Linne
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    How is Ruin2 + ED or Ruin + Fester even considered a rotation?

    Pro tip: you should use all of the above.
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    Last edited by Gokulo; 10-09-2013 at 02:28 PM.

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    Lil Cairn
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Let me guess, is she a new player with just one relic weapon?
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    Detroit Slums
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    IF I don't tell others how to play the game, then 9/10 Paladins I group with won't hold threat on more than 1 mob.

    Quote Originally Posted by icebalm View Post
    So please, just let players play how they want. Just because they're not following the norm, doesn't mean they're bad players.
    What you are saying right there is why 29/30 Titan pugs on my server fail. Learn to play the game correctly?
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    Vamperica Garisk
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    lol @ OP....come to forums to rage, ends up embarassing himself.

    This is why people out there SHOULD listen to others...theres a good chance they know what they're talking about. Don't take random strangers advice as gospel, but chances are that there is always room for improvement (unless you're getting World Firsts).
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    Serafall Lockheart
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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    Shurelia Chan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Not sure if OP is trolling or just bad...
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