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  1. #1
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    Jocko's Avatar
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    Cecilia Amor
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Anyone feel the game may be -too- standardized?

    I haven't been keeping up with dev posts since the game launched and if anything has been said about this issue then please let me know!

    While I usually like the simple approach to most games, I think one of the biggest appeals to MMOs is differentiating your character and building it into something your own. Not just aesthetically, but mechanically as well! And as of right now there's really no way to do that. Gear progression is a straight line (Which has resulted in some awful end game community elitism), Classes currently have no place within the endgame and might as well not exist, stats are incredibly bare bones with no room for unique character builds...I mean, the game just launched, yeah, but from what I've seen and heard during the game's development it's all very intentionally like this from their core design standpoints

    Which honestly doesn't make much sense to me because the two -biggest- selling points of XIV, it's much more in depth crafting and gathering systems, and the skill swapping 'Armory' system, have no room to grow whatsoever. Crafting and gathering has no place in an endgame setup done with linear gear upgrades from dungeons, and Jobs are so rigid in structure that there's no room for playing with the Armory System (Partly due to the sheer stat upgrades and equipment pools granted from job stones, making classes near useless) Additionally jobs themselves begin to feel homogeneous due to the forced role groupings. I come from playing Blue Mage sub Dance in XI, which was an incredibly versatile job combination that could fill -any- role in the party if you built it right. I just can't see that ever working in XIV as of now, which is sad because those are my favorite types of classes to play

    So yeah, just a small rant. Feel free to comment, or show me if the devs have talked about this at all (Would really appreciate it!)
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    ntall1's Avatar
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    Johra Burgers
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I fully agree. The only difference to classes at lvl 50 is when someone doesnt take the time to get a cross class spell.

    Conj 1 got quick cast
    Conj 2 did not.

    Not a whole lot of difference there.
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    Hera Awoken
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I been highlighting this point few weeks ago and the white knight label me as crazy WOW fanboy trying to ruin FF14.
    So, you too are crazy WOW fanboy for thinking like that.
    Go enjoy the sunset and the wind blowing moment. Stop complaining.
    The only issue with the game is the crowd noise is annoying.
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    Reiku Lumenaris
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    I agree on a per class basis. However, I have multiple classes at level 50. So /shrug

    It doesn't feel very different from World of Warcraft to be honest. I have a Shaman with a healing and caster dps spec. Arcanist feels a lot like that.

    Only thing I would suggest for FF14 is having at least two jobs for each class.
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    Last edited by Rin_Kuroi; 10-09-2013 at 12:11 PM.

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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Well there is nothing in the rule book that says you have to equip a soul stone for a party. In fact I think PvP is when we are going to see a lot more classes with mix matched abilities.
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Well there is nothing in the rule book that says you have to equip a soul stone for a party.
    Aside hurting yourself and party performance? Absolutely - You gain too much by using your stone that it's fairly noticeable early game and end-game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocko View Post
    Classes currently have no place within the endgame and might as well not exist
    Been saying this from day 1, from the introduction of the job system and until the class system is dead.

    The class system does nothing but create a terrible anchor that weighs down any notion of jobs themselves being unique and fun.
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    Kazek Natasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Aside hurting yourself and party performance? Absolutely - You gain too much by using your stone that it's fairly noticeable early game and end-game.
    So you got proof of this? Last time i checked they can take alot of cross class skills vs a job, one might say they can be effective in their own way. Like i asked, do you have proof or are you relying on base assumptions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcheustheWise View Post
    So you got proof of this? Last time i checked they can take alor of cross class skills vs a job, one might say they can be effective in their own way, if you don't have proof do not speak like you do. But thanks!
    I'll take this as sarcasm so no worries.
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    Kazek Natasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    I'll take this as sarcasm so no worries.
    Ill take this as assumption, no worries.
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