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    pandabearcat's Avatar
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    It certainly wouldn't be above dex, but I'm surprised its not above det.

    Determination is a flat increase in damage independent of weapon damage and dex, but I suppose since bard's base weapon damage is so low that it is weighted higher.

    For casters at least weapon damage and int are so high and lack of autoattack that crit's multiplier of the whole thing outshines det even without a crit proc.
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    It certainly wouldn't be above dex, but I'm surprised its not above det.
    Det appears to cost more item budget than crit/ss/acc, so it "needs" have a higher weight per point or it'll be pretty bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Out of curiosity, does your sim accurately reflect the fact that flaming arrow is auto-crit damage?
    Actually no, my model has it as a normal ability that crits when you crit, etc. I read something about shadow flare autocritting; the fire AOE for Bards is the same? May be 'common' among persistent AOEs potentially sourced from dummy objects or something else strange. Doesn't seem like there's a really "good" reason why those would autocrit.

    In any case, that would alter the weights to:

    WD 7.849
    DEX 1.000
    DET 0.231
    CRT 0.221
    SS 0.130

    Relatively small-ish dent to crit, although it's obviously dependent on the target standing in the AOE.
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    Last edited by EasymodeX; 10-10-2013 at 12:37 AM.

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    Aria Placida
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    So, it looks like .22 is a good estimate, at least going off of the stats you're using to run your sim. I don't suppose this is available online anywhere, is it? I'm curious what it would say the weights are with my stats, bearing in mind that I'm just under the crit rating you're using.
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