Laziness or Problem? Only shouting rather than using /lfp and player search.

[EmSix]

It is not laziness, or a remnant from 1.0, or whatever.
Let's say everyone starts using the LFP tool and shouting goes away. What now?
I search, get the first 200 people on the list that meet my criteria. Great. Does this person want FATE? Do they want Praetorium? AK? Primals?
There is no separation for what the player is looking for party for, and it's hardly reasonable to expect the party leader to read every search comment and send a tell to every player that is LFP.
This is why shouting is currently the most efficient way to form a group. Until we have a way for people to flag themselves as searching for single (or multiple) forms of content, the LFP feature is useless.

[Warlyx]

It is not laziness, or a remnant from 1.0, or whatever.
Let's say everyone starts using the LFP tool and shouting goes away. What now?
I search, get the first 200 people on the list that meet my criteria. Great. Does this person want FATE? Do they want Praetorium? AK? Primals?
There is no separation for what the player is looking for party for, and it's hardly reasonable to expect the party leader to read every search comment and send a tell to every player that is LFP.
This is why shouting is currently the most efficient way to form a group. Until we have a way for people to flag themselves as searching for single (or multiple) forms of content, the LFP feature is useless.

u can add a comment in your search

LFP AK / CASTRUM / TITAN HM for example

it works like FFXI or other old LFG :P

and if u are looking for a lvl 50 TANK , i guess only 3-5 will be LFP at any given time , and reading 5 search comments is hard?

the LFP in FFXIV it works but ppl prefer to shout , because its instant message to the whole zone , u dont need to navigate menus....

[EmSix]

Wth are you talking about? You can TYPE what you are specifically LOOKING for when you /LFP....genious. Ty for proving that it is indeed ignorance that causes people to not use this function.

u can add a comment in your search

LFP AK / CASTRUM / TITAN HM for example

it works like FFXI or other old LFG :P

and if u are looking for a lvl 50 TANK , i guess only 3-5 will be LFP at any given time , and reading 5 search comments is hard?

the LFP in FFXIV it works but ppl prefer to shout , because its instant message to the whole zone , u dont need to navigate menus....

Ironic, considering I addressed that in my post, I guess I'm not the ignorant one after all? I'll even highlight it for you.

There is no separation for what the player is looking for party for, and it's hardly reasonable to expect the party leader to read every search comment and send a tell to every player that is LFP.

There are hundreds of people on every server all looking for parties for different things, sifting through every search comment to find out what people want is going to take an awful lot of time. You cannot filter by comment. You cannot filter by "What content a person wants". These are the big issues and why people shout.

[Oextra]

It is not laziness, or a remnant from 1.0, or whatever.
Let's say everyone starts using the LFP tool and shouting goes away. What now?
I search, get the first 200 people on the list that meet my criteria. Great. Does this person want FATE? Do they want Praetorium? AK? Primals?
There is no separation for what the player is looking for party for, and it's hardly reasonable to expect the party leader to read every search comment and send a tell to every player that is LFP.
This is why shouting is currently the most efficient way to form a group. Until we have a way for people to flag themselves as searching for single (or multiple) forms of content, the LFP feature is useless.

Wth are you talking about? You can TYPE what you are specifically LOOKING for when you /LFP....genious. You can even say what class(es) you'd prefer to use and everything. Ty for proving that it is indeed ignorance that causes people to not use this function.

and it's hardly reasonable to expect the party leader to read every search comment and send a tell to every player that is LFP.

There are hundreds of people on every server all looking for parties for different things, sifting through every search comment to find out what people want is going to take an awful lot of time.

These are the exact parts where you prove your ignorance for:
1. When searching for players, you can pick exactly what you are looking for in terms of Online status, Class/Job, Level, Location, and Language. This not only cuts the list of players, but also gives you massive control over what you are looking for. Hell you can even look for party leaders under Online Status, and see what they're doing or wanting to do. It's no where nearly as random and unorganized as you believe it to be.
2. So seeing hundreds of people spamming at any given time is more efficient than using an organized search function and reading through a few comments?
3. So it's more reasonable to expect the party leader to search through or wait for spam in order to find a player than look at an organized list of what type of player they are looking for? Interesting.
4. The party leader doesn't send a tell to a person LFP....they invite.

Once again ty for proving that it's ignorance that keeps people from using this and relying on spamming every few secs or mins. For if you had any real idea about the search tool, you wouldn't have said anything you just have said on this post.

[Soukyuu]

Let's say everyone starts using the LFP tool and shouting goes away. What now?
I search, get the first 200 people on the list that meet my criteria. Great. Does this person want FATE? Do they want Praetorium? AK? Primals?
There is no separation for what the player is looking for party for, and it's hardly reasonable to expect the party leader to read every search comment and send a tell to every player that is LFP.
This is why shouting is currently the most efficient way to form a group. Until we have a way for people to flag themselves as searching for single (or multiple) forms of content, the LFP feature is useless.

That's what the recruiting system people were ignoring in 1.0 was for, actually. Except as I said above, the leader just put up a party recruitment entry for a specific content and people could just join if they met the criteria. It's actually very convenient, so let's hope they implement it soon and people actually use it

Why would I use the player search tool over duty finder for dungeons and primals?

The only thing I can think of is to group with people on the same server which is good but not worth extra time personally. Duty finder is faster and why I don't use the player search tool.

Some content is not in the duty finder though. Coil, FATEs (the fact it was supposed to be party-less aside), Chimera, Hydra, did I miss something else?

[xRitzx]

Some content is not in the duty finder though. Coil, FATEs (the fact it was supposed to be party-less aside), Chimera, Hydra, did I miss something else?

I don't usually FATE and haven't been past Ifrit or Wanderer's Palace. But it's good to know I can use this for Chimera or Hydra if I want to run it fast and my FC members are doing something else. I have doubts this would be really effective with Coil's convoluted lock out system.

[Soukyuu]

I have doubts this would be really effective with Coil's convoluted lock out system.

From what I gathered, it's the leader who is checked for which turn to load, so I don't see why it would matter. You probably just can't be brought into coil if you don't have access to it at all.

The amount of "I didn't know it even existed"-posts is rather disturbing... I admit it's a bit hidden and from what I saw, the game never mentions it, but don't people read the manual? Or at least poke around all the menus?

[xRitzx]

From what I gathered, it's the leader who is checked for which turn to load, so I don't see why it would matter. You probably just can't be brought into coil if you don't have access to it at all.

I haven't been to coil obviously. But yes, the leader determines what turn to load. So if the leader is on turn 3 and everyone else in the party is on turn 1, then the party can proceed. However, if that party starts turn 3, everyone that hasn't made it to turn 3 for the week can't go back and do turns 1 and 2 even though they didn't complete them themselves. The reverse of this cannot work. If the leader is on turn 1 and everyone else in the party is on turn 3, the party can't even do turn 1. This system makes sense so that you allow players no more than one coil completion per week. However, that only works well with a static group where you can down each turn together. With player search, I'm sure you can get some coil play in very easily. But getting into the exact coil turn you are on will be more difficult because of the way coil's lockout system.