whats the point of crafting...

[Cromstar]

Just saw the New 2.1 patch promotional Trailer. New Dungeons, Hard and Extreme Mode for Existing Dungeons, Free Company Housing, PVP area, Aesthician (change your look NPC), Treasure Hunt, Beast Tribes Quests. And for us Crafters? probably some scraps, as usual. Thanks Devs, and Yoshi P. Seems we are wasting our time here, posting and debating for nothing.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/spe..._Realm_Awoken/

Will wait for 17 Dec. 2013, for this 2.1 patch, still hoping there is still something to make End Game Crafting/Gathering meaningful once again.

[Kallera]

Just saw the New 2.1 patch promotional Trailer. New Dungeons, Hard and Extreme Mode for Existing Dungeons, Free Company Housing, PVP area, Aesthician (change your look NPC), Treasure Hunt, Beast Tribes Quests. And for us Crafters? probably some scraps, as usual. Thanks Devs, and Yoshi P. Seems we are wasting our time here, posting and debating for nothing.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/spe..._Realm_Awoken/

Will wait for 17 Dec. 2013, for this 2.1 patch, still hoping there is still something to make End Game Crafting/Gathering meaningful once again.

Yeah, we are seriously being left out in the cold, I'm not holding out much hope for PVP making any sort of change in the economy that won't be trashed by "participation rewards".

[Naberrie]

However, we stand by our decision not to have the highest-level gear available for purchase. One of our primary reasons is that such a change would encourage RMT. Our team is working tirelessly to stamp out RMT entirely, closing thousands of accounts and seizing massive amounts of gil every week—this even in the game’s current state, where many believe that crafted items are in low demand.

That's like refusing to teach your child how to drive because you're afraid they might someday have an accident. They're going to have an accident regardless, but giving them the tools to be successful drivers will give them the ability to handle the accident better than not knowing anything at all. Right now you're saying that combating RMT takes priority over everything (ironic, given how much spam there still is, how many mining bots I still see, and how many RMTs I report every day that seem to go ignored). RMT will always try to take advantage of the game in any way they can. But by creating an environment where combating them takes priority over game play, you're depriving a large part of your player base of a huge part of what is for them the most enjoyable aspect of the game.

[scarebearz]

RMT will always try to take advantage of the game in any way they can. But by creating an environment where combating them takes priority over game play, you're depriving a large part of your player base of a huge part of what is for them the most enjoyable aspect of the game.

I agree 100%!

This game would be much more fun if they actually investigated and banned Gil-Buyers, rather than fun-killing "counter measures".

I can't even mail items to my alt, due to these silly RMT counter measures.

Nor can I buy anything useful, as a crafter who has made a lot of gil from crafting, totally senseless in my opinion.

[Giantbane]

That's like refusing to teach your child how to drive because you're afraid they might someday have an accident. They're going to have an accident regardless, but giving them the tools to be successful drivers will give them the ability to handle the accident better than not knowing anything at all. Right now you're saying that combating RMT takes priority over everything (ironic, given how much spam there still is, how many mining bots I still see, and how many RMTs I report every day that seem to go ignored). RMT will always try to take advantage of the game in any way they can. But by creating an environment where combating them takes priority over game play, you're depriving a large part of your player base of a huge part of what is for them the most enjoyable aspect of the game.

It would be great if they added a "request craft" feature, where you could supply the mats in the same way that "request meld" works. Then they could add recipes that bind to the player immediately, and requires ingredients that also bind immediately. Allows crafting to create the highest end gear without having to make it available for purchase.

[Feilina]

This. And a reasonable HQ Rate! I can't stand the point to always be able to HQ craft. Sh*t happens. Because of the complexity of crafting in FFXIV I could stand with a HQ chance of 60-90% for a craft like this.
We even will get a replayability for the content.

A bit more Hardcore can't be bad, the raiders are for sure even to us. We HC craft they HC raid and therefor we all grind.
I happily would wear tools especially for those crafts or something other.

[Mattyg]

It would be great if they added a "request craft" feature, where you could supply the mats in the same way that "request meld" works. Then they could add recipes that bind to the player immediately, and requires ingredients that also bind immediately. Allows crafting to create the highest end gear without having to make it available for purchase.

I was thinking of this exact feature. Another idea could be to just have drops that +1 the current highest level crafted gear (i know there could be some issues with melds already on the item). My last suggestion would only benefit people that craft and raid, where they could just drop binding materials that crafters could then use.

[Feilina]

A pitty. No at least a tiny bit of information what 2.1 will bring for us crafters. No word on PVP-, Treasure-, Beastmen-, CT- crafting possibilities.

So let's hopr that the patch notes will shed some light...

[Vortok]

From this thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Updates/page3

Though it says the thread will be be deleted once the proper livestream summary post is put up.

Q20: How can we obtain the PvP gear?

A20: You'll earn points as you rank up, and you can exchange these points for equipment.

Translation of the translation: Get wrecked, crafters.

Additional, from the lodestone:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...46f445f1e93802

Near the bottom.

Spoils of Battle
Players are awarded PVP EXP and Wolf Marks for participating in matches. Wolf Marks can be exchanged for PvP-exclusive gear, materia, and actions.

Unless there's another set of crafted PVP armor and the gear that can be bought is starter gear without materia slots (not all that unlikely, tbh - well, crafted vs pvp vendor will likely be like DL vs crafted atm), sounds like we're glorified materia slotters. So glad we spent the time and effort to properly meld our crafting gear. Materia melding and spiritbonding gear to sell materia takes such high stat requirements.

/salty

[Ranzan]

Why do yoshi hates crafters so much? after the Live Letter I lost all hope in crafting and feel i had wasted my time with it!