whats the point of crafting...

[Xystic]

History repeats itself if people aren't willing to learn about history. I think its time, everyone who believes crafting should be this and that, should look back and analyze the compilation of 15 years of designs and strategies for crafting classes for MMOs. You will realize why you can't have many of the things you want or believe exist. Its been done and tried and MMOs have been punished heavily for it.

Thinking versus, done and tested over 15 years, is a downhill battle.

I've seen most of these wish lists occur over my lifetime of MMOs, most if not all are problematic.

[Feilina]

So I rally to break that loop!

[Raskbuck]

No, I won't switch to Allagan/Mythology. As a way of protesting, I'm going to keep ALL my i70 crafted, forbidden melded, until we get better crafted gear.

I wish I had that dedication... personally I think I'll just worry about the penta-melded accessories.

Also, nice to see you in the forums! I keep running into you both in-game and outside of it.

[rex1976]

if dungeon grinding will be as fast leveling as fate grinding after 2.1 then dungeon grinding with maxed out hq/materiad gear will be prefferd by most over fate grinding in rags. in order to achieve a faster pace than fates you will need to craft your gear and max materia it when you start the dungeon making crafting important to people who want to level second, third, or even all classes quickly. if you have a ton of gil and nothing to spend it on then you will buy them rather than beginning the dungeon with a lower dungeons gear, and even if you grind it out there will most likely be holes in your gear that you will have to fill. if i see holes in the market while i do then i'll make great gil fast and easy. the dungeon drops are comparable to hq/max melded gear, but are not customizable to the ways you might want to try to play the game. ie spell/skillspeed, max crit vs max determination. there is a fun factor to maxing your gear out

[rex1976]

food will be good as well from lvl 20-50

[Feilina]

And what would be your solution for end game?
Your facts for mid game are right and the crafter would profit if the impact is as expected but we will obviously not have a acceptable solution for endgame.

[Gurpsmeister]

So suddenly because dungeons are relevant you expect people to shell out hard earned gil on materia melded crafted gear? Sorry, but dungeon drops will do the job just fine all the way up to 50. I'd bet my bottom dollar you won't see a penny increase in that field at all.

Most folks I know who got the drops from dungeons kept them, and in fact having gone back thru on a diff class have started or completely collected other sets.

I for one could level any mage or tank class from 15-50 in dungeon drops alone.

[Ksenia]

Crafting in ARR



Welcome to hell

[Feilina]

Pretty constructive. *sigh*

Do you really expected a crafting without materials? Or what is it what you're trying to tell us?

[Vortok]

Have someone on our server shouting they'll finish 2 star crafts in under 1 minute. Sounds like the definition of a side attraction.

I mainly wish the process of crafting itself (aka, gameplay) felt engaging again like it did while leveling. Currently the most engaging thing is making a list of mats when I'm making more than one thing at a time to minimize how many times I have to talk to my retainers/walk to the tradecraft vendor.