whats the point of crafting...

[Laryndra]

45k for a peacock ore? sure! I'll make money off crafters as much as possible while they don't realize these facts.

^Lol if you think you're the one making gil off of this you've got no idea.. On my server these go for 30k a piece. It takes 9 of them to make a mage earring which i sell for ~600k gil. You have fun farmin those tomes for me =)

[Hitome]

You have fun farmin those tomes for me =)

It is quite funny that you think you are the one pulling in profit.

On Midgard it's 25k for phil. items. You need 18 for astral rings, yes? So if you just sell the ore, you gain 450k before taxes. If you decide to HQ it on Midgard and list it, you'll maybe make 600k before taxes.

Guess what? Only certain DoM jobs need your astral crap to survive fireball in turn 5. Given a week or two, this won't be an issue and you will see your astral ring sales drop in price.

I make much more money than most of my friends with all 50 crafts simply because phil. items are in high demand right now. I was selling you them when they were 60k which made me break 2 mil, and I still sell them to you at 25k which has boosted me even further.

Have fun wasting your time crafting, though, only to have the market eat your profits via taxes while my BLM speeds through WP, making 25k + gil drops each run in 15 minutes.

[Eriane]

I make much more money than most of my friends with all 50 crafts simply because phil. items are in high demand right now. I was selling you them when they were 60k which made me break 2 mil, and I still sell them to you at 25k which has boosted me even further.

Have fun wasting your time crafting, though, only to have the market eat your profits via taxes while my BLM speeds through WP, making 25k + gil drops each run in 15 minutes.

If no one needs the "astral crap" why are philo items in demand? They are only used for two star items. So you are pointing out that most people would rather save by getting the mats and crafting it themselves or from a guild crafter. Regardless, i can still buy 450k worth of mats and resell it quickly at even 550k. 15 min is still 15 min for 25k where a crafter just spent 10 making 100k.

[Hitome]

If no one needs the "astral crap" why are philo items in demand?

The reason they're in demand is because any fresh 50 can go to the marketborad, buy these items, meld them with materia, and be ready for coil which is why you probably will never see them dip below 20k in price: there will always be a need to gear alts who don't have access to your main's mythology/Allagan loot.

The reason astral items (rings, chokers, bracelets) have sky rocketed in price, as of late, is the need for HP in turn 5. Mainly, BLMs and SMNs. As people continue to fill in their DL gear with AF2, VIT will rise naturally and there will be no need to buy astral items simply to socket them with VIT to survive a fireball.

But, if you want to sell your HQ astral items (frequency: one sold every 5 days), I guess that's your prerogative.

[Raveman1000]

Have fun wasting your time crafting, though, only to have the market eat your profits via taxes while my BLM speeds through WP, making 25k + gil drops each run in 15 minutes.

In 15 minutes a crafter can easily make 15 items, put them on Market Board and come back later for a couple 100k's of profit. While the items are selling nothing is stopping you from farming WP .

And BTW, 2 stars crafted gears sell because they are much better than DL and cratfed accessories are quite close to ilevel90.

[Hitome]

In 15 minutes a crafter can easily make 15 items, put them on Market Board and come back later for a couple 100k's of profit. While the items are selling nothing is stopping you from farming WP .

And BTW, 2 stars crafted gears sell because they are much better than DL and cratfed accessories are quite close to ilevel90.

Less you are continually undercut which is happening much more frequently. Some 2 star crafted gear is better than DL but most of it is not better than AF2. It's easy to justify the wait on the AF2.

Again, like I said: you're free to make your money any way you see fit. Most crafters I know with all 50 maxed sit below me when it comes to gil.

My comment was a rebuttal to the special person who thought they'd buy peacock ore and sell their crafted accessories for a huge profit while acting like 'farming those phil. items' wasn't a viable path.