How do you react to being undercut?

[Hitaru]

For people dont realize is that, those 1g undercut is meaning less if say the people you undercutting have a different city retainer. Buying stuff in limsa from a grid retainer will put a fee on ur purchase, while buying from a limsa retainer is a lot cheaper due to no fee even the price tag is 1g higher. So I usually just switch around a retainer and stay 1g higer than the under cutter. And sometimes if people undercut too aggressively, I sell HQ par his NQ price just for the sake of it that I guarantee 100% HQ rate, so NQ HQ doesn't matter to me.

[ImDingDing]

For people dont realize is that, those 1g undercut is meaning less if say the people you undercutting have a different city retainer. Buying stuff in limsa from a grid retainer will put a fee on ur purchase, while buying from a limsa retainer is a lot cheaper due to no fee even the price tag is 1g higher. So I usually just switch around a retainer and stay 1g higer than the under cutter. And sometimes if people undercut too aggressively, I sell HQ par his NQ price just for the sake of it that I guarantee 100% HQ rate, so NQ HQ doesn't matter to me.

NQ and HQ are different markets, if u always HQ the end product why a NQ under cutter will bother you at all? I sold a lot of HQ at 15k when I am the only HQ seller and the NQ ones are just less than 1k.

[gadzi_h]

Buying stuff in limsa from a grid retainer will put a fee on ur purchase, while buying from a limsa retainer is a lot cheaper due to no fee even the price tag is 1g higher.

Yep unless your undercutting the tax your not getting my sale. I often buy the item listed for the city I am in just to avoid tax and or actually make a savings over your undercut. Undercutting just hurts the under-cutter. And does anyone ever consider that people are manipulating the market to obtain cheep items. I have done this list an item for a super low price watch others under cut, then buy out the market use those mats and sell your own later at a price to cover your costs. It works great.

[waca]

And does anyone ever consider that people are manipulating the market to obtain cheep items. I have done this list an item for a super low price watch others under cut, then buy out the market use those mats and sell your own later at a price to cover your costs. It works great.

People constantly manipulating price of certain materia.

example: This was sold with 4.5k gil last night when i went to bed.

[Wazabi]

People constantly manipulating price of certain materia.

example: This was sold with 4.5k gil last night when i went to bed.

It's pretty easy to spot these kind of manipulation...but how much gils were they able to make through this? The person in your picture would need to sell at least 12 PietyIII at 20k to break even...and within that 7 hour span, he only managed to sell 3. Manipuilations such as these has a window of time for you to capitalize. The longer it is, the more likely some other players supplying that goods is going to come in and undercut you, which will ruin your play. High population server makes it harder to pull that off.

[waca]

It's pretty easy to spot these kind of manipulation...but how much gils were they able to make through this?
High population server makes it harder to pull that off.

In my opinion Piety III is not a very good target. (But someone did it anyway)
There are some other materias, I believe some may figured it out, I won't name it here, have greater demand where these manipulators made money from, although I am only assuming they are making money since they have been doing this for a while.

Yojimbo is a relative low population server, I don't know how to summarize up our market habitat in a few lines, but I hope Wind shards sell at 44 gil, Lightning 40 gil (lowest price/bot price) can give you a slightly vague idea.

[Wazabi]

In my opinion Piety III is not a very good target. (But someone did it anyway)
There are some other materias, I believe some may figured it out, I won't name it here, have greater demand where these manipulators made money from, although I am only assuming they are making money since they have been doing this for a while.

Yojimbo is a relative low population server, I don't know how to summarize up our market habitat in a few lines, but I hope Wind shards sell at 44 gil, Lightning 40 gil (lowest price/bot price) can give you a slightly vague idea.

Yeah, I can paint the market picture in your server.

[gadzi_h]

People constantly manipulating price of certain materia.

example: This was sold with 4.5k gil last night when i went to bed.

Wow those are some really big swings. 4x profit. Materia seems to be where the money is right now. Everything else seems to be giving diminished returns.

[Zigkid3]

People constantly manipulating price of certain materia.

example: This was sold with 4.5k gil last night when i went to bed.

There's only 13 of those, so it's pretty easy for someone to buy up the market and monopolize on it. I'm not sure if you took a follow up screen shot to see if those actually were all able to sell for 20k each, since people can look at the history and just wait, and the person who thought they were being clever might have to lower the prices a bit until they buy.

I remember a while ago I got back from a party, I was pretty drunk so I felt overly confident in myself, I bought up a ton of Strength III materias in an attempt to jack up the price. The next day I get on, sold only a couple and a bunch of other people flooded the market with Strength III materias and drove the price down to it's original price, lost a lot of money that day.