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    Player flamds1's Avatar
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    Arik Gesi
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Raagnar View Post
    And this is why I can undercut as much as I like and not be bothered by it. It's all profit anyway. For ppl who get mad at ones undercutting by more then 1 gil, stop calling the kettle black, its just as bad if not worse. You are flipping off the person you undercut by 1 gil and the buyer doesnt give a shit if hes saving 1 gil, but he would appreciate 5k. My drastically underpriced item will disapear quick and ppl will resume normal price while you guys can drive it down by 1 gil til its worthless.
    Anytime I see someone undercutting by 1 gil, it just makes me laugh. Im pretty sure that one gil isn't going to sway someones decision on a 5k item. I often buy the next higer priced item just out of principle. If you're going to undercut... undercut otherwise don't waste my time.
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    Ilmoran's Avatar
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    Arumen Malicyn
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    Midgardsormr
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by flamds1 View Post
    Anytime I see someone undercutting by 1 gil, it just makes me laugh. Im pretty sure that one gil isn't going to sway someones decision on a 5k item. I often buy the next higer priced item just out of principle. If you're going to undercut... undercut otherwise don't waste my time.
    I do the same thing on big ticket items, and for that reason, I never respond to 1 gil undercuts.
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    Azyl Vangen
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbelgak View Post
    Generally speaking I will just undercut back all the way to the point where I'm doing nothing more than breaking even.

    In markets that I feel are mine I will undercut to the point that we are both losing money and will continue to do so til you concede defeat and bow out of even trying anymore.

    This has worked for me so far although I pretty sure half the crafters on the server hate me. I've had a couple of tells asking me to stop selling things so low.
    You can /tell retainers now?
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    Rrylia's Avatar
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    Rrylia Ravenhair
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    Leatherworker Lv 47
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanct View Post
    You can /tell retainers now?
    I don't think it's that - but for many items the name of the crafter is listed at the bottom of the item, so it's pretty obvious who owns the retainer(s). Also worth noting if you are trying to manipulate the markets (tut tut) because you will appear as the main buyer and as the crafter of all those overpriced items. You can however recycle the items (trade) to get rid of that.
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    Kieren-Dohla's Avatar
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    Kieren Dohla
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 70

    Please don't kill me for saying this...

    But I undercut fairly often. It's because I find I'm often getting undercut by a mass of 1 gil less sellers. So I drop the price by 5, 10 or 50 gil depending on if I can still make a profit. If the market for the stuff in question gets saturated and the profit I can make is too low, I just pull it from the market for a while.

    Also, I quit bothering trying to sell items that sell for less than 10 gil all the time. Even if the items are things that I got for free (drops, etc). Items like that don't move because everyone is trying to get rid of them. So I just discard them.

    Working the market is an art. Sometimes you have to move to new areas of it for a while. When I undercut I'm just trying to get something to me quickly and also test the demand. If the demand is high it will sell fast and I'll know I can price it higher.

    Just my thoughts...
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    Gabbelle Gak
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    Malboro
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    Culinarian Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanct View Post
    You can /tell retainers now?
    My retainer is named Gabbelgak, my charater is named Gabbelle Gak. I don't exactly hide.
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Since flipping is almost impossible unless serius, serius undercutting.
    Like yesterday someone selling HQ oak longbow at 2k while average price is 8K-

    I have begin to do undercutting. I normally undercut for 100 or 200, and i have a floor of 5k per HQ item, if anyone is doing less, i stop, by either leaving the item there, or taking it out of the market.
    Since i have a botanist 50 and i sell mostly carpenter HQ items, most of the main materials are free to me so im always making profit, but i also need that the products move, maybe im overproducing too much.
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    Leviathan
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    If I see someone trying to undercut by one gil, I drop the price and overload the market to scroll them off the screen.
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    Qui'qui Snafkin
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Everything I sell so far are items I've gathered myself while leveling a job so it all becomes profit for time spent acquiring a higher goal. To me, anything valued on the market that is more than what I would get by npc'ing it. Is profit. In that regard, I will undercut depending on how much is currently listed. And how often it has been selling. I won't under cut if I don't have to, but if I do, it will be enough to get my item sold. What I won't do is play item tag by undercutting by 1 gil. I usually cut by 5-10%.
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    Hitaru Terosa
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    For people dont realize is that, those 1g undercut is meaning less if say the people you undercutting have a different city retainer. Buying stuff in limsa from a grid retainer will put a fee on ur purchase, while buying from a limsa retainer is a lot cheaper due to no fee even the price tag is 1g higher. So I usually just switch around a retainer and stay 1g higer than the under cutter. And sometimes if people undercut too aggressively, I sell HQ par his NQ price just for the sake of it that I guarantee 100% HQ rate, so NQ HQ doesn't matter to me.
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