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    Vicus's Avatar
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    What is the news with server updates....Full group and still 30+ min to enter..fail

    I am just curious what the deal is with the servers. I am happy that it doesn't take long to get into the game anymore and their is a que time..that takes maybe 30 seconds to enter, but doing dungeons is just blowing my mind currently with the poor design.

    My FC joins AK with a full group but we have to wait 30+ minutes for an instance to open up? I've played nearly every major MMO over the last 15 years and I have NEVER seen a game were you have to wait to enter a dungeon due to not enough instances available. I can understand if you are farming the zone and it only takes 20 minutes to complete and a lockout timer is required to ensure speed runs don't unbalance game design but having 200 full groups ready to play and only 100 instance spots available for them to do it in?

    Can someone explain to me if they plan to fix this...or how in the world some MORON in the a major gaming company sold this stupid idea to the lead game designer.
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    F'lhinna Kutseru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicus View Post
    My FC joins AK with a full group but we have to wait 30+ minutes for an instance to open up?

    This will happen every weeks after the ToM reset.
    As long as AK is the only good way to farm them, people will farm AK to death the next hours following the reset until their capped again causing this, no matter how many instances are available.

    You just tried at the wrong time, wait for the next day or keep trying and deal with 30min for a spot.
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    Last edited by CUTS3R; 10-08-2013 at 12:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUTS3R View Post
    This will happen every weeks after the ToM reset.
    As long as AK is the only good way to farm them, people will farm it to death the next hours following the reset and so on until their capped again.

    You just tried at the wrong time, wait for the next day or keep trying and deal with 30min for a spot.
    I don't think you understood his point, why are there not more instances available? We shouldn't be waiting this long with a ready made party, period.

    The concept of wrong time is just an excuse. For a lot of people the weeknights are like this every night, and there isn't much other time available to play. There is no right time in some people's playing schedules.

    Part of the problem is that AK is so popular and there are no alternatives, the other part is that the infrastructure simply doesn't handle enough instances. It should be improved at the very least, until such time as there is more content to spread people over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    I don't think you understood his point, why are there not more instances available? We shouldn't be waiting this long with a ready made party, period.

    The concept of wrong time is just an excuse. For a lot of people the weeknights are like this every night, and there isn't much other time available to play. There is no right time in some people's playing schedules.

    Part of the problem is that AK is so popular and there are no alternatives, the other part is that the infrastructure simply doesn't handle enough instances. It should be improved at the very least, until such time as there is more content to spread people over.
    Wrong time as in, wrong day. Monday = weekly reset = everyone spamming AK runs to get their 300 myth tomes again. By Wednesday or Thursday, it's dead again.
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    Lord Rulkar
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    Want to know something worse? The zone is not refreshing the instances. If you pick duty finder already in progress you get an instance but nobody in it and the winning music is playing in background. I went in one with 30 seconds left, 2nd one was 9 minutes. If they really want to open up more instances shouldn't they clean house and close those empty instances that are finished? I bet there are 100s of those laying around and that's taking up more spots then you probably think. It is a real problem and needs to be fixed as well. Try it and you will see what I am talking about. Pick instance already in progress sometime later this week when the high volume settles down. Be on a dps job and see you get in an empty dungeon or maybe someone else but not the one you expected. It will be already finished and mobs be alive in it. That's what I am seeing.
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    Hmm

    Nanga,

    Not playing on a Monday is not a legitimate way to run a business. If your busiest day of the week for your business was Monday, would you schedule your entire staff off except one person? The server infrastructure is broken and needs to be fixed. Don't make excuses for them...I know why it is like it is...I also know its BROKEN and needs to be fixed.

    Whats even WORSE is after waiting 20+ minutes for it to pop up...if someone removes themselves or doesn't click within the 30 second window...you get REQUED back into the system for another 20+ minutes. But yeah..you keep making excuses for them or complain like I am...because maybe there is a slight chance they realize this should be the first thing they fix in this game.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicus View Post
    Nanga,

    Not playing on a Monday is not a legitimate way to run a business. If your busiest day of the week for your business was Monday, would you schedule your entire staff off except one person? The server infrastructure is broken and needs to be fixed. Don't make excuses for them...I know why it is like it is...I also know its BROKEN and needs to be fixed.

    Whats even WORSE is after waiting 20+ minutes for it to pop up...if someone removes themselves or doesn't click within the 30 second window...you get REQUED back into the system for another 20+ minutes. But yeah..you keep making excuses for them or complain like I am...because maybe there is a slight chance they realize this should be the first thing they fix in this game.
    So they should have a ton of servers for the huge hit on Monday, that all go unused, wasting money, on other days?
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    Wiegraf Folles
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    Servers can be rented or bought and resold, happens in business all the time.
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Maybe you don't quite understand the magnitude of people playing AK. Let's say since every server is always at max capacity (there's always a log in queue), that 2000 people (HUGE understatement, it's far more) are trying to do AK on Mondays. Then since there are more than 50 servers, then that is more than 100,000 people trying to do AK. Since each party is 4 people, that's 25, 000 instances. Now keep in mind that the world server is unstable over 8000 people. Then do you really expect the server for a single instance to service 100,000 people simultaneously? And there's more than this instance being run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanga View Post
    Wrong time as in, wrong day. Monday = weekly reset = everyone spamming AK runs to get their 300 myth tomes again. By Wednesday or Thursday, it's dead again.
    You have misunderstood too. I'm well aware of when the tome reset is and how it impacts the number of people wanting AK.

    Again, WRONG TIME OR DAY is just an excuse. The minimum level of server capacity to provide an adequate experience for the majority of players (i.e. during JP prime time) isn't being met.

    There is no good period for me, at least not when I can play during the week. It's always horribly slow to get an instance.
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