This Game has some Serious Issues

[JayvirDeforte]

No, it's not trolling. Doing my relic quest on my Bard with my FC and we queued for a DPS and Tank and got a Warrior like that. Not my fault if you can't see how people can legitimately do this. I'm not saying to remove FATEs, just that they shouldn't be as good as they are.

[Ignnis]

This looks like a sarcastic troll piece.


Assuming this highly unlikely scenario really occurred I'll respond a bit (yeah I know feeding the troll).

Do you really want to go down that path where SE makes massive sweeping changes to the game because there's stupid people out there? How are you going to level your third job to 50 without any fates? Hell how are you going to level your second as you can easily clear quest hubs with your first job?

With the removal of fates a person who joins this game and runs around doing all the quests for their first job (as they would in any other MMO) will be utterly screwed when they decide to level another job.

Maybe not removal of fates but a gear check or possibly an IQ test, Id prefer the latter more Tbh. I've also had a paladin in Prae who gleefully announced after the first boss it was his first dungeon and boss tank...oh holy lord.

[Psychosamm]

FATEs are incredibly flawed. They certainly need a LOT of tweaking. I've lost count of how many level 50s I've seen that are wearing level 15 gear in Ifrit/AK. Had a WAR pop in Ifrit last night wearing level 18 gear and said he'd never tanked anything in the game and didn't know how to hold hate. That should never happen.

I seriously doubt that he would have made it all the way to Ifrit HM and not know what to do at all. There IS a storyline and dungeons that you have to do. And even if it was his secondary class i'm sure he would have done some dungeons. Ever stop to think that he was trolling you guys?

[Dorfentyme]

I seriously doubt that he would have made it all the way to Ifrit HM and not know what to do at all. There IS a storyline and dungeons that you have to do. And even if it was his secondary class i'm sure he would have done some dungeons. Ever stop to think that he was trolling you guys?

Why is it so hard to believe he leveled as a main job as DPS and never tanked an instance. Then FATE grinded his warrior to 50 then queued up for Ifrit HM? That's what people do. Leveling your alt jobs is WAY easier than leveling your main jobs, its just more tedious and annoying.

Maybe people should stop looking at the game as thought it were out for years. This isn't 1.0, nor is 1.0 even in existence anymore. 2.0 is essentially a new game. New mob placements, new/updated crafting system, and so on. Expecting it to have smoothed out every gameplay related shortcomings upon launch is ridiculous, and you should be scorned for it. Your lack of insight and REAL WORLD job/work understanding is shameful to say the least.

Give them a few updates to dish out changes you'd like to see, if you're hopeful. Mind you, it doesn't mean they'll do it. Take the high road and quit until said changes come about (if they ever do). At least you can say that you didn't "waste" your time on a game with "serious issues".

Maybe its hard for others to be optimistic when Yoshi-P and devs have stated contrary to what others have wanted.

People asked about FATEs being nerfed or if it was intended for people to grind to max level so quickly. Yoshi said they won't be adjusting FATE rewards.

People asked about the delay in the net code. Their answer was "that's how we designed the code". Not, "oh, you're right .3 seconds is too long, we'll work on that".

People asked about the GCD delay and not being able to fire an ability that is OFF the GCD to interrupt an attack, they say (which still blows my mind entirely when I hear or read this) "The combat is designed this way for a reason. Please consider your strategies when moving forward". The most idiotic thing I think a dev has ever said on a forum ever. The combat was designed so that you can't use an interrupt because you're in mid animation? Really? What's the point of having reactive abilities anyways?

I know people who are quitting because of the things that the devs have said on these forums. 2.1 seems to be adding a lot of new content, but square's idea of a scripted pattern like Titan HM for a boss fight is insanely boring, and doesn't give me hope for future boss fights.

[PureEclipse]

I dunno if fast is a word id use here, sure its faster than older concepts of leveling, but I can take a character from 1-50 in a day in any Cryptic Game, I believe WoW and EQ series are on similar pages as well these days, the problematic issue is the newer mmo gamers all suffer from A.D.D. apparently so companies now focus on flashey endgame mechanics rather than the adventure in leveling itself.

[MrObject]

What about the idea that if you level up summoner you also get scholar at 50 too, what if they don't know how to heal OH NOES. From what I've heard from interviews with Yoshi there will be more jobs that share primaries in the future, so we might see dps jobs that share a primary with a tank job. So wouldn't that be exactly what the guys here are saying the problem is, people at 50 who don't know how to tank?

I don't see any of this as a problem, if people want to skip content and get to 50 then that's their prerogative, it's not my job to tell people what to do.

[Alhanelem]

First off you level way to fast in this game. I can get from 1-50 just wearing my gear I start off with. FATES are the dumbest I'v seen in any game they are so easy and mindless. FATES either need to be removed or fixed so that they scale to the people fighting them. This game has such a great looking world but it is just empty more world content needs to be added. World content also needs to be more party based everything is solo. Materia and crafting seems to just a second thought to Yoshi P you don't need any Materia through out the game or craft anything its just there. Teleportation is very dumb in this game you can teleport everywhere whats the point of airships and boats. Yoshi P had it right near the end of 1.0 with adding NM's, fixing up the battle system and other features then it just seem he went backwards and made a WOW variation of Final Fantasy.

no such thing as leveling too fast IMO, and there are in fact faster games to level in.

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

I agree that something will need to be done to compensate for the massive content gridlock that is going to occur when people realize that gear effects the ability to just access content, re: gearscore gate in DF.

I know that right now you can't complete some content due to being improperly geared but as long as people do not rage quit on you in DF, it is still possible to repeatedly try and fail that content and not know that completion was effected in any way by gear level. After being conditioned to essentially not care about gear level.. then suddenly you can't even enter content let alone try and fail I think people will be frustrated and forced to cram what they could have learned earlier.

Not just by FATES, I think the speed by which we level makes it easier to just not upgrade your gear constantly because you are already leveled out of it in no time. If I had a dollar for every time some one told me not to worry about melds and gear level until 50! I imagine they plan to deal with this and I am patient. Till then I will keep upgrading gear as soon as I feasibly can regardless of my level, no matter how futile it may seem to be at lower levels.

[texhnolyze]

FATE is just a lazy copy of dynamic event from GW2/RIFT
i play both games, and i know it
FATE is too shallow..

[Battlewrench]

Loosing faith in the forums...think I'll stop posting in them....problems or not....