2-star food; broken or for much, much later content?

[Xbob42]

Forgive me if this has been posted (possibly to death) as I don't come to these forums often.

I've been looking at two-star food for a while now, and it seems almost completely worthless.

I'm a tank, so let's take Finger Sandwich:



Let's just take one stat: Vitality.

To get the full benefit of the vitality this food offers, my personal vitality would have to be high enough to where the max amount (15) was 2% or less than my personal vitality.

I'm a tank, in a decent amount of ilvl 90 gear from both myth tomes and coil.

So let's see how much vitality I have:



479, so...

9.58 would be 2%, rounding up would be 10, so I could at most get 10 vitality from this food.

How much would I need to get all 15? Why, 750 vitality, of course!

That is just absurd. It's why I question this food. Is the percentage wrong? We'd have to be SEVERAL tiers of gear higher to reach that kind of vitality, at which point the bonus 5 vitality would, while still technically useful, would be nearly unnoticeable. Obviously an HQ Finger Sandwich would make this a LITTLE better, but not nearly enough for this to be viable food at all within the next, I dunno, year or so?


Almost all two-star food is the same way with a lot of these stats, and it's kinda sad. I can put the extra time, effort and money into making it, but I'm better off just using HQ La Noscean Toast, which gives vitality +4% with a maximum of 14, which means I get the full bonus at 350 vitality, less than half of what's required for a single extra point of vitality.

That does not seem to be how the food was intended to be consumed. Considering it also gives an experience point bonus, it sort of seems like it's meant for leveling beyond 50.

Is this how food is intended to be? If so, that's fine, but I'd really like to be making my guild two-star food, but as it stands it's totally worthless and that makes me sad.

[EdenArchangel]

Shhhhh. Let the chefs make the sweet cash D:

[Gabbelgak]

Not all of it is this way, but most is.

Here ya go:
Lava Toad Legs
Accuracy 3% (Max 22) -- Amount of Accuracy needed to gain full benefit = 734
Vitality 2% (Max 15) -- Amount of Vitality needed to gain full benefit = 750
Critical Hit Rate 2% (Max 9) -- Amount of Critical Hit Rate needed to gain full benefit = 450

Black Truffle Risotto
Determination 3% (Max 14) -- Amount of Determination needed to gain full benefit = 467
Vitality 2% (Max 15) -- Amount of Vitality needed to gain full benefit = 750
Critical Hit Rate 2% (Max 9) -- Amount of Critical Hit Rate needed to gain full benefit = 450

Finger Sandwich
Parry 3% (Max 22) -- Amount of Parry needed to gain full benefit = 734
Vitality 2% (Max 15) -- Amount of Vitality needed to gain full benefit = 750
Accuracy 2% (Max 9) -- Amount of Accuracy needed to gain full benefit = 450

Pineapple Juice
Piety 3% (Max 14) -- Piety needed to gain full benefit = 467
Vitality 2% (Max 15) -- Amount of Vitality needed to gain full benefit = 750
Spell Speed 2% (Max 9) -- Amount of Spell Speed needed to gain full benefit = 450

Pineapple Ponzecake
Spell Speed 3% (Max 22) -- Amount of Spell Speed needed to gain full benefit = 734
Vitality 2% (Max 15) -- Amount of Vitality needed to gain full benefit = 750
Piety 2% (Max 6) -- Amount of Piety needed to gain full benefit = 300

Sauteed Coeurl
Skill Speed 4% (Max 22) -- Amount of Skill Speed needed to gain full benefit = 550
Vitality 4% (Max 15) -- Amount of Vitality needed to gain full benefit = 375
Accuracy 2% (Max 9) -- Amount of Accuracy needed to gain full benefit = 450

Apkallu Omelette
Critical Hit 3% (Max 22) -- Amount of Critical Hit needed to gain full benefit = 734
Vitality 2% (Max 15) -- Amount of Vitality needed to gain full benefit = 750
Accuracy 2% (Max 9) -- Amount of Accuracy needed to gain full benefit = 450

[Gabbelgak]

Pineapple Juice
Piety 3% (Max 14) -- Piety needed to gain full benefit = 467
Vitality 2% (Max 15) -- Amount of Vitality needed to gain full benefit = 750
Spell Speed 2% (Max 9) -- Amount of Spell Speed needed to gain full benefit = 450

Pineapple Ponzecake
Spell Speed 3% (Max 22) -- Amount of Spell Speed needed to gain full benefit = 734
Vitality 2% (Max 15) -- Amount of Vitality needed to gain full benefit = 750
Piety 2% (Max 6) -- Amount of Piety needed to gain full benefit = 300

Sauteed Coeurl
Skill Speed 4% (Max 22) -- Amount of Skill Speed needed to gain full benefit = 550
Vitality 4% (Max 15) -- Amount of Vitality needed to gain full benefit = 375
Accuracy 2% (Max 9) -- Amount of Accuracy needed to gain full benefit = 450

Apkallu Omelette
Critical Hit 3% (Max 22) -- Amount of Critical Hit needed to gain full benefit = 734
Vitality 2% (Max 15) -- Amount of Vitality needed to gain full benefit = 750
Accuracy 2% (Max 9) -- Amount of Accuracy needed to gain full benefit = 450

[Gabbelgak]

The value increases when high quality - also I hate the 1,000 character limit in a post on this board.

[Laryndra]

It stands to reason that the item level 70 food is intended for when you are level 70.. (when they increase level cap) as the rest of the food is level appropriate.

[Xbob42]

It stands to reason that the item level 70 food is intended for when you are level 70.. (when they increase level cap) as the rest of the food is level appropriate.

That'd make sense, but having it in-game so early? Odd. There's no ilvl 60 food, and the ilvl 70 food isn't nearly as good as I'd expect it to be. Certainly not the difference between 30 food to 50 food.

The value increases when high quality - also I hate the 1,000 character limit in a post on this board.

Edit your original post and the character limit vanishes.

[Feron]

Personally, I think the percentile-and-cap system is bad, and I'd like food to just give a flat bonus.

[Geobryn]

can someone post HQ stats of "star" food ?
because stat wise its like
50 lvl HQ no star = 2 star no HQ
but % wise its 5%, 4%, 3%(2% ?) vs 3%, 2%, 2%

chance to HQ 50 lvl no star is 99,99% by afk macroing
which means 2 star is broken or meant for much higher lvl characters who will have stats so high to actually utilize it and also be able to 100% HQ 2 stars OR i am missing something XD

*eats some HQ Deviled Eggs*

[Bearssi]

Are the food buffs dynamic?, with potion stat bonuses and group bonus or with other buffs.