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    Devs: You're aware how terrible Missions/Parley are, right?

    Something thats been on my mind lately. Content this, battle that.. but no talk about the staple of Final Fantasy: the story.

    Missions in this game all the way up to 50 are godawful. Don't get me wrong, the story and cutscenes are for the most part amazing.. even if I don't like how much the arc jumps around in between missions. But the parts we actually play are a joke. Run in circles for a few minutes while an NPC laser charges and hope you don't get hit? Attempt to elude detection from a handful of inept guards while watching your NPCs pathing bug out? Come on.

    And Parley.. dear GOD parley. The fact that this even exists blows my mind. Crafters/Gatherers (apparently) need a way to do these missions without combat, I get the reasoning. But you couldn't have come up with something less.. bad? Like, I don't know, making them craft/gather something for the battle they can't participate in, then give them the cutscene upon completion? The fact that its REQUIRED for some parts is downright insulting, and its existence takes away any possible challenge the actual encounters could have. Too difficult? Go the crafter route.

    I'm sure most will agree with me, even if the vocal defense squad doesn't. But the point of this thread is that this part of the game hasn't even been mentioned (to my knowledge) since Yoshi took over. Are you aware of this problem, and what are you doing about it?
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    I'd honestly like to see them stray from the "crafters and gatherers can do story missions with parley!" bit. What's going to happen at the end of the story? Convince the big bad evil boss to reconsider his ways through parley? That's certainly not heroic at all.

    I think if they want to involve crafters/gatherers in the story they should create separate story missions pertaining to them that tie in with the combat ones. That way the combat classes can actually have challenging and interesting fights in the story and crafters/gatherers aren't left out entirely.
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    Crafters and gatherers should be able to wield their tools like weapons, as was originally intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    Crafters and gatherers should be able to wield their tools like weapons, as was originally intended.
    I disagree. Crafters and gathers are by their very nature not front line people. There's no reason why they should be involved in combat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    I disagree. Crafters and gathers are by their very nature not front line people. There's no reason why they should be involved in combat.
    I agree. People pick crafters to craft, not fight. That's why we have a choice of easily-switchable classes.

    Also Parley by itself is fun. But I would like to see it in some other fashion than missions. They are just to easy as-is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    I disagree. Crafters and gathers are by their very nature not front line people. There's no reason why they should be involved in combat.
    Then if you wanna do the missions you should be forced to group with someone capable or change classes. The missions as they are right now suck big time, what a stupid decision by SE to go down this road.
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    I can only imagine the scenario : King Arthur summons all his knights within the room where the round table is, explaining the dire situation they face against an overwhelming army of 5000 dragons led by a mysterious dark mage with powers beyond everything the knights have ever encountered before.

    When Arthur says he will choose the bravest of soul for the mission of his life to go into ennemy territory trying to stealth his way to the leader of this dark force and confront him hopping to end this menace in a quick strike, Percival and Lancelot are jumping in a corner with hands in the air like 2 idiots saying : choose me me me me me!!!!! King Arthur look up to his knights and chooses...

    ...the fukking fat cook who never left the castle for the last 25 years, that was passing by the door at that moment -_-
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    Crafters and gatherers should be able to craft and gather to clear the main scenario quests. Parley needs to go away, party encounters in normal battlefields need to come in.

    While I am pretty certain that they have something better planned for the future scenarios, I hope they'll go back and tweak the existing quests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Crafters and gatherers should be able to craft and gather to clear the main scenario quests. Parley needs to go away, party encounters in normal battlefields need to come in.

    While I am pretty certain that they have something better planned for the future scenarios, I hope they'll go back and tweak the existing quests.
    Agreed 100%, please do this SE! I don't want these stupid, boring, unchallenging missions we currently have. I want hard party based ones like FF11!
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    They did screw the pooch on this one I'll admit, intentional or not it does seem inconsiderate for crafting and farming classes, but hey, at least it makes sense, you know, Just because you choose a non-violent path in life doesn't mean your life will be sunshine and daisies.
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