At this point in the game, "rushing" is not a valid argument.

[Dorfentyme]

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If you do leves, gathering is fast. If you don't, its slow. Same with just grinding mobs to level. If you grind mobs, its slow. If you do quests, its extremely fast.

You can level every class in this game exceptionally faster compared to other MMOs. So when people are EASILY hitting the level cap, then upset that the game has a boring endgame, they have every right to be upset. Not everyone plays an MMO just so "sit and stare at the sunsets", because that's what the real world is for.

So people say you are rushing if from day 1 you:

1. Make a new character
2. Do your main story quests up to level 50.

How is that rushing? That's PLAYING the game. There's no rushing involved. It's just PLAYING the game. Just because person A didn't feel like LITERALLY stopping to smell the roses or "dip his virtual feet in the water" doesn't mean that he RUSHED through the game. He simply proceeded through the main story that the game guides you through.

Goodness the fanboys. Don't you understand that its okay to love something/someone and still see the flaws? That's relationship 101 right there.

[DivineOracle]

Rushing is one out of a fresh character you get to max level as fast as possible, get to endgame spamming dungeons nonestop playing 14+ hours a day trying to get the best gear as quickly as possible, talking down to all the "casuals" that did not rush through it like you (not you your self but the people rushing) and then crying that there is nothing to do after 1 month of a games release because you mad dashed to everything that is out there.

That my friend is rushing. has nothing to do with "fanboys"

[Jess_Spark]

If you do leves, gathering is fast. If you don't, its slow. Same with just grinding mobs to level. If you grind mobs, its slow. If you do quests, its extremely fast.


Goodness the fanboys. Don't you understand that its okay to love something/someone and still see the flaws? That's relationship 101 right there.

Nope..my leves are for DoH. DoL I do to get ingreds for DoH. Plus making many money on excess. Spend alot of time playing the auction too to prepare for my large house. Not a fanboy whatever that is? First FF game I've played. Came from a long line of MMOs....starting with Ultima Online. Just like sandbox and enjoying myself. Yep enjoy real life too...but play the game to escape the stress of real life.

[OrganizationXIll]

How many hours a day are we talking about? Because I've been playing the game almost everyday since September 4th and I just hit 42 this morning, so...

If you do leves, gathering is fast. If you don't, its slow. Same with just grinding mobs to level. If you grind mobs, its slow. If you do quests, its extremely fast.

You can level every class in this game exceptionally faster compared to other MMOs. So when people are EASILY hitting the level cap, then upset that the game has a boring endgame, they have every right to be upset. Not everyone plays an MMO just so "sit and stare at the sunsets", because that's what the real world is for.

So people say you are rushing if from day 1 you:

1. Make a new character
2. Do your main story quests up to level 50.

How is that rushing? That's PLAYING the game. There's no rushing involved. It's just PLAYING the game. Just because person A didn't feel like LITERALLY stopping to smell the roses or "dip his virtual feet in the water" doesn't mean that he RUSHED through the game. He simply proceeded through the main story that the game guides you through.

Goodness the fanboys. Don't you understand that its okay to love something/someone and still see the flaws? That's relationship 101 right there.

I have been playing casually and tonight I will probably (hopefully) hit 40 on my WHM. I generally play about 3-4 hours a night at most. That is casual. Playing 8-10 hours a day and going through the story in a week isn't casual just because it is easy to do. You still need lots of time to invest in it. Casual players do not have this time to spend on the game. Casuals can play the exact same way as you:

1. Make a new character
2. Do your main story quests up to level 50.

an take twice as long because we can't throw the same amount of time at it as you. How you do it doesn't determine your status. (Casual/Hardcore) The time you can put into it does.

[Kosmos992k]

If you do leves, gathering is fast. If you don't, its slow. Same with just grinding mobs to level. If you grind mobs, its slow. If you do quests, its extremely fast.

You said it yourself - you *can*...but you don't *have* to.

I've played nearly everyday since launch for a minimum of 2 hours a day, probably more, and I am not level 50 yet in my main class. Nor is my primary crafter/gathering class 50.

What have I been doing? Let's see, I explored, I tried many things out, I've done FATE and leves, dungeons and primal battles, I've chatted with my friends, I've gathered for my crafting friends, they've crafted for me, we set up our free company, and I've had a lot of fun. What I have not done is FATE grind, leve grind, power level, dungeon grind, treat playing my enjoyable game as if it were a job that requires my undivided attention to progress as fast as possible.

They key point I want to make is that as you said you *can* level quickly through various means, but as I have said, you don't *have* to. Power leveling is your choice, I consider it rushing. I also think that it is interesting that you're posting basically to say to people "I'm level 50, stop telling my I rushed, you're just too slow to keep up." . You don't like being told that you rushed, so instead you're flipping it round to tell everyone else that it's so easy to level to 50 without trying that if they haven't done it already, something is wrong. Sorry, no, that's not it at all. this is a subscription based MMORPG, it's designed to be played for years, and yet within little more than a month of playing you have already reached end-game and are impatient. How is that not rushing the game?


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I have to post a reply here because of the asinine forum restriction placed on posters due to their level....::rolls eyes::

"Stop calling people rushers because they are level 50 already and you aren't."

OK, but the reverse is true as well. If you are a player that reached level 50, and you are bored waiting for others to catch up, don't tell them they are taking too long, or demand that they hurry up. I see both sides of the coin, many in my FC are lvl 50, some did rush, others took more time, but those that got there early have expressed frustration that others took so long. Of course folks on this forum are not always polite with their frustration. If you're only pointing out that hitting lvl 50 by now is not rushing, I can agree, but your post seemed to me like it was leaning towards saying that folks that haven;t hit 50 yet are taking their time and too slow. If that was not your intent, then I apologize for seeing that interpretation of your words and reacting.

[Dorfentyme]

You said it yourself - you *can*...but you don't *have* to.

I've played nearly everyday since launch for a minimum of 2 hours a day, probably more, and I am not level 50 yet in my main class. Nor is my primary crafter/gathering class 50.

What have I been doing? Let's see, I explored, I tried many things out, I've done FATE and leves, dungeons and primal battles, I've chatted with my friends, I've gathered for my crafting friends, they've crafted for me, we set up our free company, and I've had a lot of fun. What I have not done is FATE grind, leve grind, power level, dungeon grind, treat playing my enjoyable game as if it were a job that requires my undivided attention to progress as fast as possible.

They key point I want to make is that as you said you *can* level quickly through various means, but as I have said, you don't *have* to. Power leveling is your choice, I consider it rushing. I also think that it is interesting that you're posting basically to say to people "I'm level 50, stop telling my I rushed, you're just too slow to keep up." . You don't like being told that you rushed, so instead you're flipping it round to tell everyone else that it's so easy to level to 50 without trying that if they haven't done it already, something is wrong. Sorry, no, that's not it at all. this is a subscription based MMORPG, it's designed to be played for years, and yet within little more than a month of playing you have already reached end-game and are impatient. How is that not rushing the game?

Just because someone chose to do leves for their mining and you didn't, doesn't mean they are a rusher, it just means they didn't want to peck at a node and run in circles for 2 hours just to level once or twice. That doesn't make them a rusher. The only way to power level in this game is to just spam run FATEs over and over. All the other ways are NOT considered power leveling. It's just called playing the game.

If you try to hit 50 in this game, you will. The game isn't challenging to hit 50 in, it doesn't take a lot of time at all. My point was simply this:

"Stop calling people rushers because they are level 50 already and you aren't." That doesn't mean they rushed, it just means they spent their time leveling their class while you sat in the water pretending to take a bath with your virtual character. There's nothing wrong with that, but that doesn't mean the person isn't a rusher. It just means he doesn't care if his character has had a recent bath or not. Stop reading too much into it.

It's funny, I did all the same things you did over the past month. Started a linkshell, joined a FC, done some FATEs(not many, mind you, I don't like them that much), done a few leves, did my guildhests, did primal battles for MANY people(tanking for them so they wouldn't have a long queue), explored all the zones entirely, gathering and did some blacksmithing, farmed for gil, and had a lot of fun. But I'm also 50 because I chose to stick to one class instead of being burned out by all the different classes and burning myself out on all the content I've ALREADY done. I JUST leveled from 1-50, why would I want to repeat all that content again so quickly? Why is it so hard to believe that some people want to level their alt jobs 6 months down the road when the content hasn't just been completed for them?

To reiterate: Just because someone hit 50 before you, doesn't mean they were rushing. Just because they were playing the game and using all the options to level at their disposal instead of basking in the sunrise(which I'll do IRL if I want a beautiful sunrise), doesn't mean they are rushing. You literally have to TRY to not level fast in this game if you were to stick to just one job.

[Sixmp]

Just because someone chose to do leves for their mining and you didn't, doesn't mean they are a rusher, it just means they didn't want to peck at a node and run in circles for 2 hours just to level once or twice. That doesn't make them a rusher. The only way to power level in this game is to just spam run FATEs over and over. All the other ways are NOT considered power leveling. It's just called playing the game.


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Here is the thing from my perspective people get called rushers because they jump into a game and concentrate 100% getting to max level then once they hit that and do everything to do with end game they jump onto the forums within a month of the game being launched and start crying about how little content there is for them to do.
I would think it would only be fair to point out that they refuse simple things like leveling another class or do some crafting or gathering . No they want more endgame content which they will do as fast as they possible can. Some rushers even plan for it. So they can stay up days at a time with hardly any sleep.

Yes i am pointing out an extreme case. some rushers only stay up 24 hours or just play 12 hours a day for a couple of weeks.

So if that isn't rushing.. what is?

There is plenty to do. If people don't want to level all of the classes/jobs/crafting/fishing/gathering etc fair enough but don't expect people to rush to agree with you when you have nothing to do.
There is lots to do in this game to last until SE add more content.

[Dorfentyme]

Here is the thing from my perspective people get called rushers because they jump into a game and concentrate 100% getting to max level then once they hit that and do everything to do with end game they jump onto the forums within a month of the game being launched and start crying about how little content there is for them to do.
I would think it would only be fair to point out that they refuse simple things like leveling another class or do some crafting or gathering . No they want more endgame content which they will do as fast as they possible can. Some rushers even plan for it. So they can stay up days at a time with hardly any sleep.

Yes i am pointing out an extreme case. some rushers only stay up 24 hours or just play 12 hours a day for a couple of weeks.

So if that isn't rushing.. what is?

There is plenty to do. If people don't want to level all of the classes/jobs/crafting/fishing/gathering etc fair enough but don't expect people to rush to agree with you when you have nothing to do.
There is lots to do in this game to last until SE add more content.

You mentioned 2 different types of people and confused them as one.

Someone who says "I want to focus on a single class, and do end game content." Is not a rusher. In fact, that's what A LOT of MMO players do. That doesn't make them rushers.

Someone who says "I want to focus on a single class, get hit to max level as fast as possible, and blow through the endgame content as fast as possible." IS a rusher.

They are 2 completely different types of people. Some people play MMOs for the endgame, that doesn't make you a rusher. Someone who rushes through all the content as fast as humanly possible IS a rusher. They are 2 completely different things.

[Sixmp]

You mentioned 2 different types of people and confused them as one.

Someone who says "I want to focus on a single class, and do end game content." Is not a rusher. In fact, that's what A LOT of MMO players do. That doesn't make them rushers.

Someone who says "I want to focus on a single class, get hit to max level as fast as possible, and blow through the endgame content as fast as possible." IS a rusher.

They are 2 completely different types of people. Some people play MMOs for the endgame, that doesn't make you a rusher. Someone who rushes through all the content as fast as humanly possible IS a rusher. They are 2 completely different things.

Actually i didn't mix anything up, i was talking about 2nd one you described. If people want to take their time and level 1 job fair enough.

The thing is this. If your choice of playing style leave you with nothing to do then that is your fault. SE is not to blame.
There are lots of things you could do if your playing style was different.

It is fine to play how you want. I don't think anybody actually has a problem with that.

I think what gets people though is complaining of no content in a game that is full of content.
It is like going into a room full of food and complaining about how there should be more food because you just choose not to eat what is available

So there is no point complaining about lack of content for your choice of play style on the forum because you are choosing not to play all the content.

In reality your choices are this.

Stay subbed and wait patiently for new content you want to do.
Unsubscribe and wait for new content you want to do.

[Naunet]

They key point I want to make is that as you said you *can* level quickly through various means, but as I have said, you don't *have* to. Power leveling is your choice, I consider it rushing. I also think that it is interesting that you're posting basically to say to people "I'm level 50, stop telling my I rushed, you're just too slow to keep up." . You don't like being told that you rushed, so instead you're flipping it round to tell everyone else that it's so easy to level to 50 without trying that if they haven't done it already, something is wrong. Sorry, no, that's not it at all. this is a subscription based MMORPG, it's designed to be played for years, and yet within little more than a month of playing you have already reached end-game and are impatient. How is that not rushing the game?

You're missing the point. I have found the time to carry on a lot of roleplay, level my side classes, level crafting classes, level alts (multiple classes to 15 or higher on three different alts so far), help lower level players with dungeons and story trials, and even play a completely different MMO (Rift). I've done crap tons aside from just pushing to 50 on WHM (through a combination of the story quest, did all the side quests and read all the quest text, hunting logs, GC logs, and lots of instancing - sat on Dzemael for a good time because I was trying to farm up the Coliseum set), and the past two weeks I haven't even played XIV more than a few hours at a time in the evening, sometimes not at all. And yet I still hit 50 last week.

Don't tell me I rushed because I did not do anything of the sort. How hard is this to comprehend?