Should have made FFXI-2 instead of this game IMO

[Satachi]

Thanks for being civil Like a poster above said "people will tear you apart" and I know that. Buy why? isn't this a forum to just hang out and chat? I Really hope that time will help this game. I know it's only 1mo old, I'm willing to put in some time with it. I re-subed, so I'm not giving up on it yet. I guess overall I had really high hopes for this game, since I played ffxi for almost a decade, but hit level 50 in this game in less than 30 days!

Plus the last thing I want is the Devs to give in to everyone's demands without thinking about the impact, that will ruin this game, I've seen that before with other games..

Mhm. It used to be where you could go to a forum and no one would troll/harass/bash or anything like that. I feel uphold that.

[Reokudo]

Oh yeah, I totally... Miss the long hours of sitting in Crawlers Nest pulling crawlers into a cave and fighting them for half a day. Yeah, no. Other exp gains aside from that would be fine. As for crafting, leave that as it is. We don't need the game being more grindy.

[Evangela]

No, thank you.

[BedroomRockstar01]

Quest driven leveling is such a bad idea IMO.

As opposed to mindlessly grinding mobs? Well, I guess that's one opinion.

I'm enjoying gathering (which levels much quicker then job leveling)

You're doing it wrong then (not that gathering takes that long either).

Also, if you considered leveling alts a viable option in FFXI, then you must have not played pre-CoP. That was the last time I was there, and you were lucky to have 1-2 jobs at 75, let alone an entire alt character, although I understand that they basically nuked that system of leveling and made it a joke at some point. There are things I loved about XI that I'd like to see come back, but not any of the things you're suggesting. So what's my point? Take the game for what it is, and judge it on that alone. If it's not for you, then it's not for you. Comparing a 1 month old game to a 10 year old game is unrealistic to begin with.

[Slickpig]

MMO's have changed. Many people feel there simply isn't enough quests and want more. Leveling entirely through mob grinding has been done away with for a long long time. People want things that hide the grind which is the primary reason most people don't like fates being the main way to level up. Most players simply won't play an mmo if grouping was 100% necessary in order to level up.

I agree, leveling through ONLY mob grinding shouldn't exist. I'd like to see a good balance, but the problem is we've gone from one extreme to the other IMO, now there is ZERO mob grinding. Yes it can be done, I've done it for a few levels, but it's crazy slow solo.

[ashikenshin]

I loved FFXI! it was my first MMO and played it for like 4-6 years (memory is fuzzy) but i wasn't married and didn't have a job. Now, yeah I wouldn't want any of that. The story was awesome and I think ffxiv is on the right track with it's story. One thing I liked about ffxi that I don't like about ffxiv is that race doesn't matter at all. I know it sucked for those galka that wanted to be white/black mages but I don't know why I liked it.

Everything else about FFXI sucked your life out of you. If you are jobless or are a teenager then I think I know how that might sound appealing, but yeah, that grinding gives me shivers.

[Haruka-Akemi]

Why so much hate for XI?
Anyways i played XI since beta and trust me i really miss party leveling it was slow but rewarding always i finished a party with 2000 tnl i
Always returned for more because leveling is exciting its part of the game i loved and here i need 2k tnl? No problem do a fate wich gives 12k
And do that 100000 times to hit 50.
Trust me is boring boring as hell
And what i do to pass the time in this game? Level another job or simply run ifrit always full of "not enough dps" kidz
Sometimes i wish this was a little more party friendly in all aspects
I want to participate in story missions with my friends or help em
Most of the time i disband the party with my friend because the story battles are instanced
I just wanted to help
But yeah i really miss XI grinding
Even with abyssea was fun and many people seems to hate it
But i bet some of these haters enjoyed theyr relics or empyreal or voidwatch runs
Or hell even getting sky

[Lisotte]

MMO's have changed. Many people feel there simply isn't enough quests and want more. Leveling entirely through mob grinding has been done away with for a long long time. People want things that hide the grind which is the primary reason most people don't like fates being the main way to level up. Most players simply won't play an mmo if grouping was 100% necessary in order to level up.

Oh yeah, having an npc tell you he needs 10 rabbit skins REALLY hides the fact that you're grinding. The only real difference is that with quests you spend some time travelling, and it's mostly a solo activity as opposed to a group activity.

[Slickpig]

As opposed to mindlessly grinding mobs? Well, I guess that's one opinion.

Also, if you considered leveling alts a viable option in FFXI, then you must have not played pre-CoP.

Actually I played as soon as Zilart came out, up until Abyssea, I just ran out of time to play, and the elitist players made it no longer fun for me. If I didn't have uber gear, and was doing end game then they wouldn't talk to me. Which is fine, to each their own, I'm a more casual player anyway. I had 3 level 75's and most of the others were 36. Leveling other classes was something else fun to do, made me understand the classes better so in a party I could react better based on the situation.

[Battlewrench]

A more modern day xi with more convenient system and menus would be my perfect MMO. Yes I know my, as in what I want not the majority.