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  1. #1
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    Slickpig's Avatar
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    Sibian Dragonspire
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 60

    Should have made FFXI-2 instead of this game IMO

    I enjoy this game... for the first character, but trying to do Alt's is a non-starter for me. I tried a couple this weekend, and it was horrible. Way too slow to solo trash world mobs, fate chasing is just plain dumb. Quest driven leveling is such a bad idea IMO. You limit your games lifespan. I guess this is what the kiddies want these days?

    I'm enjoying my main character, I'm enjoying gathering (which levels much quicker then job leveling) The dungeon content is fun, graphics are awesome. There are lot's of aspects I really like about this game.

    Why is there no exp parting? I've commented on this before, but the further I get into this game, the more I realize this is a MUST have for me to continue in this game. I'm not just talking about grouping up, and running around soloing mobs, thats lame. I want the old FFXI party system back!!

    Crafting seems pointless, even gathering for that matter. I was gathering dark matter, but why? You can just NPC it for cheaper than the AH. Crafting? why? everything is handed to you for 90% of the game. Maybe at higher levels you can make nice gear, but it's so easy to level, wont everyone just do that themselves?

    Just seems like there is a major balance issue in this game. Maybe it was done on purpose to get everyone to 50 then the "real game" will start with new content?

    My suggestions:
    1. Double the exp from world mobs to make leveling alt's possible or.
    2. Create instanced exp party areas, this would be awesome.
    3. Re-balance the craft/gather classes. In FFXI you had to depend on each other because doing all of the classes was extremely time consuming, it could take a year to max out a craft.
    4. Fix the bots!!! And the spam!!!
    5. Way too much solo quests, this is an MMO, why do I have to solo every quest except dungeons? Make the quests scale with party size or something? Again FFXI had it perfect.
    6. Too many cross class abilities, I think this diminishes the need for job specializations. Why does conj. get flash? (I know jobs are more limited)

    FFXI was a grind, I'm not asking for that again, but FFXIV went way too far the other direction. I'd like something in the middle of these games, little less grind, little easier questing and SE would have a perfect game that would last for years.

    Just my $.02
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    Last edited by Slickpig; 10-08-2013 at 12:40 AM.

  2. #2
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    yukikaze_yanagi's Avatar
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    Yuki Ynagi
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    this is a MUST have for me
    bolded the important part of the post.
    Also, no more FFXI in any shape, graphyc and gameplay in my life. Simply, no more.
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Sadly you'll be torn apart by this community because majority of them seem to hate XI, who've played it and even the good aspects about it. Honestly, an updated XI would have been amazing because it was a lot more..like an MMO, even if it was based around EverQuests's Core systems they actually tried something different with it - Job Switch, Actual Storyline and the atmosphere/lore for example - With ARR, they didn't really try anything, they just simply made this MMO appealing to the mass by giving it a typical design, they didn't even try to make the Quest Grind more interesting, you can literally load up Rift, WoW, Lineage II or even Ragnarok Online 2 and get the same exact quests with different dialog.

    Even in 1.0 you had to depend on each other and each of your classes for crafting/gathering but people complained about it so..
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    Unless it's some sort of RP type situation, why are you even bothering with an alternate character in the first place? That being said, how exactly is it slow? You can level to 50 in a matter of a couple weeks (or less) just by doing your quests.
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    Satachi Starstrider
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    This game just came out less than two months ago. Im sure within time its gonna get better. FFXI wasnt good within two months, it took a long time to get end game better. We as consumers just have to be patient and realize that its all a process. I feel with what you're saying, believe me. But you cant expect a MMO to be perfect in a short amount of time. With all you're asking, and what other people are asking, this game will just be rushed with content and the game will break as a whole.

    But, thats just my opinion. Again, I respect your point of view. I just ask for everyone to be patient, and after a few more months you feel the same, then maybe its time to find something else. Not saying leave and GTFO, but you dont wanna spend money on a game if you aren't happy, you know?
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    Lisotte Poena
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    I would much prefer the party exp grind of FFXI over solo quest grind. Not only do you sidestep the issue of running out of quests for alt jobs, but instead of skipping pointless text you don't care about, getting 10 rabbit skins, turning them in for exp, you can form a party with REAL people, go out there, get chain exp on mobs while chatting with your group, cheering when someone levels up, do your skillchain (oh wait we don't have that), etc.
    This is an MMORPG; I'm here to play with people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slickpig View Post

    FFXI was a grind, I'm not asking for that again, but FFXIV went way too far the other direction. I'd like something in the middle of these games, little less grind, little easier questing and SE would have a perfect game that would last for years.

    Just my $.02
    MMO's have changed. Many people feel there simply isn't enough quests and want more. Leveling entirely through mob grinding has been done away with for a long long time. People want things that hide the grind which is the primary reason most people don't like fates being the main way to level up. Most players simply won't play an mmo if grouping was 100% necessary in order to level up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satachi View Post

    But, thats just my opinion. Again, I respect your point of view. I just ask for everyone to be patient, and after a few more months you feel the same, then maybe its time to find something else. Not saying leave and GTFO, but you dont wanna spend money on a game if you aren't happy, you know?
    Thanks for being civil Like a poster above said "people will tear you apart" and I know that. Buy why? isn't this a forum to just hang out and chat? I Really hope that time will help this game. I know it's only 1mo old, I'm willing to put in some time with it. I re-subed, so I'm not giving up on it yet. I guess overall I had really high hopes for this game, since I played ffxi for almost a decade, but hit level 50 in this game in less than 30 days!

    Plus the last thing I want is the Devs to give in to everyone's demands without thinking about the impact, that will ruin this game, I've seen that before with other games..
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  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    MMO's have changed. Many people feel there simply isn't enough quests and want more. Leveling entirely through mob grinding has been done away with for a long long time. People want things that hide the grind which is the primary reason most people don't like fates being the main way to level up. Most players simply won't play an mmo if grouping was 100% necessary in order to level up.
    Which is funny when you think about it - Quest Grinding is much older and more used than Mob grinding yet we still get this system in every new MMO :\
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Party grind = dungeons
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