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    Naomi Langureion
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    I'm so tired of some whm trying to be blm.....
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    Alyssin Kiger
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    In a proper party a healer should have plenty of time to throw up Cleric Stance and nuke with some Stone II's. So in a sense White Mages should be playing as a ghetto Black mage. However a Good White Mage will be ready to switch in and out of cleric stance at a moments notice to maximus the speed of the run and keep the tank and DPS safe. I switch Cleric Stance on and off close to 100 times in some runs.
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    Gentle Starlight
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16bitBounty View Post
    In a proper party a healer should have plenty of time to throw up Cleric Stance and nuke with some Stone II's. So in a sense White Mages should be playing as a ghetto Black mage. However a Good White Mage will be ready to switch in and out of cleric stance at a moments notice to maximus the speed of the run and keep the tank and DPS safe. I switch Cleric Stance on and off close to 100 times in some runs.
    I've yet to ever have time to even buff myself up, let alone be able to throw off a couple Stone II's and whatnot. How do people do this?

    I just had a DPS tell me to leave the party the other day because I wasn't healing good enough and the tank tell me my armor wasn't doing me any favors because my Cure wasn't giving him enough. :/ Except the tank wasn't pulling aggro off me and I ended up being too busy running away and trying to get breathing space to even fire off a Cure I/II, but nope, it's always the healer's fault, isn't it?
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    L'aweyna Umbra
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    Quote Originally Posted by lineandcolor View Post
    I've yet to ever have time to even buff myself up, let alone be able to throw off a couple Stone II's and whatnot. How do people do this?

    I just had a DPS tell me to leave the party the other day because I wasn't healing good enough and the tank tell me my armor wasn't doing me any favors because my Cure wasn't giving him enough. :/ Except the tank wasn't pulling aggro off me and I ended up being too busy running away and trying to get breathing space to even fire off a Cure I/II, but nope, it's always the healer's fault, isn't it?
    Your armor should be good enough, according to lodestone. Have you been putting all of your attribute points in mind?
    Anyway, I can't shift between cleric stance and off until I learn the fight, and know when I need to save my mp or know when I can fight. :P Depends on your party to, if they are undergeared and not very good, then you'll be healing more than fighting, certainly.
    Really, just learn the fights, and try to group with people you know for dungeons and things will run smoothly.
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    Shaami Albhed
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    Quote Originally Posted by lineandcolor View Post
    I've yet to ever have time to even buff myself up, let alone be able to throw off a couple Stone II's and whatnot. How do people do this?

    I just had a DPS tell me to leave the party the other day because I wasn't healing good enough and the tank tell me my armor wasn't doing me any favors because my Cure wasn't giving him enough. :/ Except the tank wasn't pulling aggro off me and I ended up being too busy running away and trying to get breathing space to even fire off a Cure I/II, but nope, it's always the healer's fault, isn't it?
    A good tank will mark the targets and you can sleep the ones that aren't being attacked. Will make your life a lot easier trying to keep up with heals.

    After level 30 waiting times will be a lot longer, even for healers.
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    @lineandcolor
    You shouldn't be running anywhere except straight to the tank. If they're doing their job you should lose your aggro rather quickly. Tanks after 35 start really requiring a lot of effort to keep topped off. To that effect there's really no reason to keep them topped off, just keep them alive and above 75%. Regen is the bread and butter now, not Cure. You let the tank build their aggro and keep Regen up on them. If a DPS takes damage Regen them so you can focus cures on the Tank when needed. Between Regen and Cure I you can keep anyone alive. I farmed Brayflox for battlemage gear but it's really not that much better than what you'll get from quests so your gear is fine.

    @Michelasso
    My girlfriend uses this keyboard when playing on PS3.
    http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...ctID.253651800
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    Arcana Morghana
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16bitBounty View Post
    @Michelasso
    My girlfriend uses this keyboard when playing on PS3.
    http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...ctID.253651800
    Well, thanks, but I don't have the space for a keyboard. It is taken by my laptop. As I wrote I would be interested on that keyboard attachable to the DS3 controller. I'd like to know how it works with FF XIV before buying it, though.
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    Akua Shuzen
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    Quote Originally Posted by lineandcolor View Post
    I've yet to ever have time to even buff myself up, let alone be able to throw off a couple Stone II's and whatnot. How do people do this?

    I just had a DPS tell me to leave the party the other day because I wasn't healing good enough and the tank tell me my armor wasn't doing me any favors because my Cure wasn't giving him enough. :/ Except the tank wasn't pulling aggro off me and I ended up being too busy running away and trying to get breathing space to even fire off a Cure I/II, but nope, it's always the healer's fault, isn't it?
    From what I've observed since I started playing Conjurer/White Mage, I would think that the amount of breathing room you have as a healer is largely dependent on the competency of your tank. If there's aggro flying everywhere then odds are your tank isn't doing his job right. Or perhaps your DPS classes might need to throttle back their attacks a bit. But as a healer, it helps to only heal as much as you need to to keep the tank alive (keeping him around 75-80% is usually fine), especially when there's multiple strong enemies around. Toss him a quick Esuna if he gets poisoned or paralyzed. As was already stated, the Repose skill can be a godsend when used correctly, and assuming you're in a party that concentrates their fire on one target rather than everyone attacking whatever the hell they want. Right after the tank marks his targets, 1, 2, and 3, and right before the targets start pummeling him, sleep 2 & 3. At that point you should have enough breathing room for some stance dancing, that is, Cure/II > Stance > Stone II > Aero> Stance > Cure/II > Stance > etc. etc. (At least that's the rotation I usually use).

    Something else you can do is enhance your skills with some macros.
    /ac "Cure II" <tt> - This one uses Cure or Cure II on the target of your target, letting you heal the tank while watching your enmity gauge of the monster wailing on him.
    /ac "Stone II" <tt> - Target your tank while using this one to cast Stone II on whatever target your tank is looking at.
    You can get a lot more creative than that, but I prefer to keep things simple since I don't have a mouse to use while I'm playing (PS3).
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    Last edited by Akuha; 10-11-2013 at 06:50 AM.

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    Gentle Starlight
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    Hm. I've never used macros, honestly. I don't know how ^^; Like I said, I'm very new to this and when asking about dungeons and whatnot, I was literally only told to just heal the tank for the most part and then heal the DPSs if they need it. Actually going in and DPSing was never something I really thought about because any time I tried I managed to pick the worst moment to go through the hotbar or something (I'm also on a PS3) and suddenly my tank is back down to below 50%.

    I've already been told to leave a party for trying to multitask and I really don't want to be told it's my fault again. ._.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lineandcolor View Post
    Hm. I've never used macros, honestly. I don't know how ^^; Like I said, I'm very new to this and when asking about dungeons and whatnot, I was literally only told to just heal the tank for the most part and then heal the DPSs if they need it. Actually going in and DPSing was never something I really thought about because any time I tried I managed to pick the worst moment to go through the hotbar or something (I'm also on a PS3) and suddenly my tank is back down to below 50%.

    I've already been told to leave a party for trying to multitask and I really don't want to be told it's my fault again. ._.
    You and the tank are always top healing priority. The DPS is always bottom priority, as if they're getting damaged it's usually their own fault for pulling too much aggro and not regulating their attacks and/or switching targets when necessary (unless the tanks sucks). As for macros, they're cake easy to use once you get a feel for them. First flip over to your actions hotbar, the one with all the red icons. Unless you fiddled with it the macro one should be L2 + Directional Button Up.

    Here's a couple macro guides you can look at and learn from. The 2nd one is specifically for White Mages, but read the first one to gain a basic understanding of how they work first.
    http://erals.guildwork.com/forum/thr...ith-extra-fish
    http://ffxivrealm.com/threads/some-whm-macros.7350/
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    Last edited by Akuha; 10-11-2013 at 10:55 AM. Reason: 1k character cap is lame