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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    Your suggestion just as easily applies to new players wanting to run it. They can form their own pre-made groups specifically to go slowly through it and watch all cutscenes. And from a community/societal standpoint, it makes much more sense for them to the be the ones to make their own groups, since first time runners are by far the minority.

    But speaking of compromise, that's exactly what I do. I compromise. You want to watch the cutscenes, which will inconvenience the other seven of us. So as a compromise, I ask you to skip the cutscenes for now, since you can watch them in your room later. That way you can still participate in all fights. However, I offer another compromise that if you don't want to skip cutscenes: you can watch them, but you will run the risk of getting locked out of a boss.

    You claim that the seven others being inconvenienced aren't losing anything, but you're wrong. They're losing time... which is the most precious resource in an MMO. You really shouldn't speak of being an adult when you're not even capable of looking at both sides.
    ... I believe I addressed all of the points you made in the rest of my post you quoted. Again, a few minutes for ANYONE is not the end of the world. And if it is, why are you spending the time on an uncertainty (such as playing a video game...) if every second is a life or death matter? The compromise I referred to was the fact that the non-story folks still get it done.

    Basically, the folks doing it for speed get the short end of the stick, in that it takes a few minutes longer to do something. Fair? Of course not, but it's not a big deal to let the minority have some fun... it's a video game, not a job. You're not gonna be fired from your "job" of playing FFXIV if you take a little longer to do something. Compromise. Be a thoughtful adult where it applies. It's not harmful to give up some things once in a while (such as a few minutes).

    Your idea of a compromise isn't much of one. It's basically a dictatorship. Compromise is a mutual understanding and acceptance. Your going through with something regardless of their reply is more along the lines of a threat that's sugar-coated. Don't paint yourself out to be some sort of martyr. You're not wrong to do it, but neither is the person who refuses to skip scenes. I think for your sake, it's important to understand that you're not compromising. You're only suggesting one, despite the intent to go through regardless of the other parties concerns

    Once again, I covered pretty much your reply in the quote you referred to.

    I think it's important that I should point out that I'm not saying that it doesn't get annoying or whatever after so many goes. I'm just saying that if you rely on the DF for randoms, it's going to be like that. Just keep in mind you're going to ruin someone elses experience if they're there for the story by rushing them. It doesn't matter that they can view it in the inn. MMOs are immersion based games. It kinda breaks the immersion when you're already done with the battles, then go back to see the story that lead up to it.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 10-08-2013 at 11:39 AM.