Research a dungeon before you queue up

[Tsukino]

I'm glad I ran through most of the story in the first two weeks, so I ended up with full groups who had never seen the fights and just threw ourselves at every boss to learn. It was much more fun than having to watch someone else on YouTube first.

[Aldwin]

I'm glad I ran through most of the story in the first two weeks, so I ended up with full groups who had never seen the fights and just threw ourselves at every boss to learn. It was much more fun than having to watch someone else on YouTube first.

I second this. I don't mind new players at all. At one time, everyone was new, even you OP. I get that you have a busy life and can't waste time being patient for someone else, in which case maybe this game isn't for you, maybe social interaction isn't for you, maybe anything to do with other people in general at any time isn't for you.

Why are people so impatient these days?

[FutanXIV]

They need to get done asap so they can complain there's nothing to do.

[Sardoni]

How were the guides written in the first place?

[Crica]

How were the guides written in the first place?

by awesome players who did it without guides, of course

players that want everyone to read those guides are NOT awesome players, so everyone can ignore them and go play the game without spoilers if they want to, its ok!

[Kyouko]

Solution: Make some friends.

When server transfers hit but that's not part of my issue

[Zenkai]

as a gamer, i pride myself on learning stuff as i go. i hate resorting thru walkthroughs and much more videos... sure sometimes i ask for any particular notes on a boss but i like to take in the pattern the developers made for myself and not watch someone else's game.. sure it might be way smoother if i watched/studied it before hand but my gamer conscience is telling me thats cheating myself. its like taking the test and knowing the questions before you even start or watching a movie and knowing the ending.

dont you think that'd be quite boring? knowing something before it even happens.. no more sense of surprise.

[Kyouko]

as a gamer, i pride myself on learning stuff as i go. i hate resorting thru walkthroughs and much more videos... sure sometimes i ask for any particular notes on a boss but i like to take in the pattern the developers made for myself and not watch someone else's game.. sure it might be way smoother if i watched/studied it before hand but my gamer conscience is telling me thats cheating myself. its like taking the test and knowing the questions before you even start or watching a movie and knowing the ending.

dont you think that'd be quite boring? knowing something before it even happens.. no more sense of surprise.

I'm coming from knowing what's coming and performing well at it, some people know what's coming and don't perform well

[Hawklaser]

I'm coming from knowing what's coming and performing well at it, some people know what's coming and don't perform well

And no guide in the world will fix that.

[Sardoni]

I'm coming from knowing what's coming and performing well at it, some people know what's coming and don't perform well

The trend in this game is simple. If it's your first time on a difficult boss... you will wipe at least once... perhaps twice. Then you learn the pattern and rarely wipe again.

All the guides in the world don't prepare you for how it's going to work for you to overcome your own mistakes and shortcomings.

Had a tank who never knew the bees spawned on demon wall because he'd only ever run it with full relic+1 darklight guildees (he was one run short and I was full relic+1 darklight but the bard was GC weapon and 2 pieces darklight XD). We still beat it, but even though he'd been there multiple times yadda yadda.

I still couldn't tell you "the proper way" to beat the last guy in Wanderer's Palace. I use Titan to tank while the PLD scoops up the adds and tanks those elsewhere lol. Only ran it a handful of times but never done it any other way. Don't really care what a guide has to say, but I'm always open to improvement.

I generally follow the tanks lead and pepper advice for future runs (like you can skip these mobs etc etc). No reason to change the momentum of the run if you're used to things a certain way UNLESS you're wiping.

With AK/Ifirit HM/Garuda HM I have netflix open in the corner of my screen and only half pay attention. I imagine the rest of the content will be that way soon for a lot of people. I focus for what I need to focus on