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  1. #11
    Player
    Velveteer's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Rouge Velvet
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Me and 3 others went in completely blind for stone vigil and we beat it, by wiping alot and thinking what we were doing wrong.
    Even garuda (story mode of course).
    It was actually quite fun.
    (18)
    Last edited by Velveteer; 10-07-2013 at 02:06 PM. Reason: jesus christ my gammar goddamn

  2. #12
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    Kyouko's Avatar
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    Character
    Meiko Otsuka
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Read a guide and go in just don't go in without doing any research
    (0)

  3. #13
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    DeceptionsWrath's Avatar
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    Character
    Anita Rathkamp
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyouko View Post
    Read a guide and go in just don't go in without doing any research
    No thanks, i'll learn as i play. But thank you for your advice.
    (17)

  4. #14
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    Arriko's Avatar
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    Oct 2012
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Nyomi Feiyin
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    It seems many people have been forgetting lately that they at one point were one of those new players experiencing a specific dungeon for the first time. You can research a dungeon all you want but all parties are different. People suggest different ways to go about it depending on their experience. Some people read up on it to give themselves a heads up, some want a fresh first time. Either way eventually it will come to the same conclusion: victory! Even if there is a wipe before defeat
    (10)

  5. #15
    Player
    Hagito's Avatar
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    Jan 2012
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Finn Miller
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    After that first experience I didn't really want to screw up again (3-4 deaths in one primal fight... not good) so I started looking for information of what the abilities are and watched some fights on youtube so now I knew what was next and how to avoid being killed. It helped, after that I improved a lot.

    If you're really up to trial and error on end-game you will end up being excluded or called up names if you que with a random party / duty finder, imo the best way to learn a dungeon or fight is by researching a little, watch the dungeon/fight once on youtube, then run it with your linkshell or free company, then you will have the tools to excel on your job, most people just need one to three dungeon / primal fights to start improving and learning the mechanics.

    When I went into Titan HM, I watched the fight over 5 times on a video, when I qued the first time in duty finder, I was one of the last ones to die (no enough DD to kill the heart, sadly) just because I knew what the titan mechanics were and was prepared for it. A new player to the fight with no research will simply die on the first plumes or bombs that appear. Researching a little can do wonders to avoid frustration to both you and your party members.
    (0)

  6. #16
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    Kittra's Avatar
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    Apr 2011
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    Character
    Kittra Thelder
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    I have to say, if you're using the Duty Finder to run all your dungeons and you haven't found a Free Company/Linkshell to do it with by now, then expect the Trial & Error method 90% of the time.

    I "could" research the dungeons before I run them, but I "choose" not to. It's fun for me to experience the dungeon without knowing what's going to happen until it happens so that I get those "woah!" moments.

    Typically, I've found when I research the dungeon before I run it the first time, I get extremely irritated by every little thing that goes wrong because I'm "expecting" it to go right since I researched it first.


    Now, when I'm running a dungeon with my FC, I'll definitely research it first, because we're not there for "fun" we're there for serious business... come to think of it, that might be why I have less fun doing runs outside the Duty Finder.
    (5)

  7. #17
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    Vergil_Renata's Avatar
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    Jun 2011
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Vergiliaux Renata
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    I also went through dungeons such as The Stone Vigil blindly, and learning how to do them was actually a lot of fun. :/
    I'm very patient, and I honestly like helping newer players through dungeons and setting an example.

    (I can't wait for the MVP system. Just saying. )
    (15)
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    GrumpyScholar @ Tumblr


  8. #18
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    Aelis's Avatar
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    Character
    Alina Alexandros
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    This is RPG, when it's first time in a dungeon i want to explore it with my own view before read "guide"
    (10)

  9. #19
    Player
    Hagito's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Finn Miller
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Hmmm well here you have two things, people that que in duty finder "for fun" and people that que in duty finder just to do the fight/dungeon. Sadly you cannot separate the groups that want to do it because they need it done asap and the ones that want to learn it the ol' fashioned way.

    Granted it is fun going into a dungeon blind, but atleast ask before hand if you're new to the dungeon. Personally I like explaining a dungeon/fight to help others get through it, even if it takes longer to pass but I rather spend 5 minutes explaining each boss/primal than having one member dead the whole run.
    (4)

  10. #20
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    Sotek's Avatar
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    Character
    Sefiria Satara
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyouko View Post
    Going in blind hoping to get carried
    That is not what I'm doing when I go in blind... I absolutely hate the current gaming community that seems to think you need to know everything before playing, it is certainly more prevalent with the MMO community, but even developers of single player games decide to remove any sense of wonder and excitement from a game before it is launched... Oh Skyrim has dragons in it? That absolutely wouldn't have been an amazing thing to discover on my first play through, thanks for making sure I went in prepared Bethesda !

    No. You only get one chance to enjoy something for the first time, and I'd much rather my first play through of any game not involve me going down a mental checklist I read online...
    (15)

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