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  1. #71
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    Farmer's Avatar
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    Mac Roni
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by kazaran View Post
    there will also be severed penalties for kicking poople for no reasons, misusing the game mechanics and DF. That could lead to bans if complaints are filed.

    It is sad that we need such things at all. OR that people would abuse it for personal desires. It seems MMO's are really not for them.
    Gamers have certainly changed since I started playing, where the majority now would abuse such past helpful systems. It is sad to see indeed.
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  2. #72
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    ZakarnRosewood's Avatar
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    Za'karn Riskbreaker
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Watch your first cutscene: get booted from party. Fun...
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  3. #73
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    Seig345's Avatar
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer View Post
    I think this goes back to my point, that you are booting someone for other reasons then just being afk, or badmouthing, which is the ONLY time someone should EVER be booted from a party. Otherwise dissolve the party if its a failure, dont use a system to boot people who need to learn, and you have agreed to be with until a certain point in a dungeon.
    I gotta disagree with those being the ONLY reasons someone should ever be booted from a party; while CM certainly has very lax gear requirements, and people should be allowed to watch the cutscenes when it's their first time, booting someone for poor gear in dungeons such as AK or hard mode primals is absolutely reasonable. (The trick is, they're adding hard-coded gear level requirements for these anyway, so my point is purely academic)

    Once you hit level cap, you can no longer make your character more powerful through the accumulation of EXP. Instead, you do the equivalent of leveling up by acquiring better gear. Attempting to walk into HM Titan with only AF and subpar weapon and accessories is like trying to walk into CM at level 40 or less. You can't do that because there's a hardcoded level requirement, because you'd get roflstomped by the trash mobs if you tried. It was simply an oversight on SE's part to not treat gear level the same way, which they are going to correct in patch 2.1
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    Last edited by Seig345; 10-08-2013 at 03:14 AM.
    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

  4. #74
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    Riko_113's Avatar
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    Kael Elenion
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Don't use "undergeared" as excuse for not having /votekick. In the next update(when this could be added earliest) they are adding GearCheck which means it won't be possible to do anything undergeared.

    Also, they're adding in a karma system that can't be used with premade members. Why not just prevent /votekick on teams where a majority of the members queued together?
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  5. #75
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    Invz's Avatar
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    Zero Life
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    BLM has gone from the best endgame class, to arguably the second worst.
    I have no idea what you mean by this. BLM is a great class for endgame if geared and played well. In almost everything I do endgame or otherwise my BLM will parse higher DPS than any other class except other BLMs with better gear and bards.
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  6. #76
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    Gaston's Avatar
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    Leopard's Maelstrom
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    Malboro
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    Lancer Lv 56
    Then Do you have an any idea about how to against afkers?
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  7. #77
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    Madame Butterfly
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenkiei View Post
    Have you seen me say anything about CM/Praehere? There's a reason for that THOSE are the gearing dungeons and none really have gear requirements. I've specifically targeted AK because yes with Artemis Bow +1 I CAN carry a dps with a L40 weapon, but why should I have to carry someone who is effectively useless just because I'm geared? Should I never use the DF for fear of people who want to be carried? To anyone who says "people should be able to queue no matter how undergeared"

    1) Make a party of 4 friends.
    2) Go get a L40 weapon, leveling jewlery and AF.
    3) Put them on, try to clear AK, see how much fun you have.

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    On another note: I would fully support gear requirements, preferrably avg ilevel for instances such as AK, Garuda, and Titan all of which cannot be completed with "whatever" gear.
    People like you are the whole problem with this game.
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  8. #78
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    Ryan Shori
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    Sagittarius
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    Scholar Lv 90
    opposite to what OP has experienced. I have seen more AFK/trolls than I've seen mean party members. Vote-kick required IMO
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  9. #79
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    Tzain Nival
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    The bottom line, unfortunately, is that Griefing happens.
    Could be the "elitist" griefing other players (Yes, "requiring" drops that occur from the content that you are currently running is griefing.) Could be a malicious individual trying to sabotage a run. Either way, the tool WILL be abused and used properly in equal measure. The problem, as always, is the human element behind it. And the solution is for all of us, collectively, to get over our own childish bull.

    The tool is simply a tool. The intent is what worries us.
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  10. #80
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    I don't get the point of these discussions. If your not fully geared, then why don't you try the instance later after you obtain the appropriate gear? You would have less worry of dealing with jerks and less worry of being kicked. Most of the time, people don't kick just for the lulz. Its usually for a reason.
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