Quote Originally Posted by Farmer View Post
To inuakurei, yes its unfortunate that you made it to the end and could not finish it, but you also agreed to party with him until the final boss. One person may be the wipe of your party but that is considered a loss. I find it hard to think you lose that instance every time to someone like that. A loss is a loss, its not a win, it sucks but we all have them from time to time. Would one loss justify adding a kick / boot system that would no doubt be abused by a majority of the people, just to always ensure a win and never a loss?
I've actually run into this problem multiple times. Its much rarer than someone being a jack ass over someone's gear / performance but it does happen. I've even hit roadblocks on the first boss because of tank / healer issues. Just yesterday I had another healer (whm) who couldn't even heal past the first boss. They had lv20 accessories, all AF, and lv40 weapon. They simply couldn't keep up with the damage and also didn't use Esuna, which lead to all of us wiping multiple times. We were all friendly (the pld was kind of a jerk though) and told him what to do and that he had to use Esuna but he just wouldn't listen.
We should be able to kick people like this.

On the flip side, a week or so ago I had a group with me (blm), a brd, a pld, and a whm. We were going along fine when suddenly, without saying a word, the whm decided that our pld was bad and stopped healing him, letting him die. This was even before the first boss, in the open area in front of the entrance to the boss, meaning that in the time frame of only 4 or 5 pulls, the whm alone decided our pld deserved to die. The pld wasn't even doing a bad job, he did fine except for not marking enemies, but hardly anything to get upset about. So after that it just turned into a 20 minute e-peen rage fest and mpk attempts that ended up with the pld leaving.
This is also why we need a vote to kick option.

Anyways my point is, the need for a vote to kick system vastly outweighs the negative side affects it could have.