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    Yuufarlc's Avatar
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    Simone Winterlust
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 33
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenkiei View Post
    I noticed a few small mistakes in your post, but don't worry I've corrected them.

    You are a douche, theres many people legitimately in at least ONE lvl 50 dungeon who are under geared, because it is a Story Dungeon and that very dungeon is used to gear up in
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    Tenkiei Miharu
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuufarlc View Post
    You are a douche, theres many people legitimately in at least ONE lvl 50 dungeon who are under geared, because it is a Story Dungeon and that very dungeon is used to gear up in
    Have you seen me say anything about CM/Praehere? There's a reason for that THOSE are the gearing dungeons and none really have gear requirements. I've specifically targeted AK because yes with Artemis Bow +1 I CAN carry a dps with a L40 weapon, but why should I have to carry someone who is effectively useless just because I'm geared? Should I never use the DF for fear of people who want to be carried? To anyone who says "people should be able to queue no matter how undergeared"

    1) Make a party of 4 friends.
    2) Go get a L40 weapon, leveling jewlery and AF.
    3) Put them on, try to clear AK, see how much fun you have.

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    On another note: I would fully support gear requirements, preferrably avg ilevel for instances such as AK, Garuda, and Titan all of which cannot be completed with "whatever" gear.
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    R'sthal Tia
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    The catch 22 of AK is it drops the gear between AF and Darklight, plus is needed for the GC weapons which are used before Ifrit. If you want something changed that should definitely be it. That said I support both gear level too low and gear level too high filters on dungeons.
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    Kort Mcshort
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rsthaliot View Post
    The catch 22 of AK is it drops the gear between AF and Darklight, plus is needed for the GC weapons which are used before Ifrit. If you want something changed that should definitely be it. That said I support both gear level too low and gear level too high filters on dungeons.
    People used to run AK "under geared" all the time. Then they found out how to speed run things and now these people are too good to run it the way it was supposed to be run. It wouldn't drop the next level gear if SE didn't intend on it being ran when that gear was needed.

    This wasn't a rant at YOU. Just a rant in your post. sorry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kort View Post
    People used to run AK "under geared" all the time. Then they found out how to speed run things and now these people are too good to run it the way it was supposed to be run. It wouldn't drop the next level gear if SE didn't intend on it being ran when that gear was needed.

    This wasn't a rant at YOU. Just a rant in your post. sorry
    But I agree with you. The most realistic option is a higher level Philo dungeon that drops more tomes. Most under gear wipes are due to insane aggro drawn from high geared players. The problem is both parties need this dungeon, I was presenting her with a solution she may prefer as that would be far better then a kick system because the environment around speed run dungeons is half nice people trying grind up, and half extremely toxic opportunists. The later half is a big issue. That said, the video attached is proof. I also think though there needs to be gear too high and gear too low restrictions. Because a level 30 sword is pushing it hard.

    http://youtu.be/U9qLEHSLu8M
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    Last edited by Rsthaliot; 10-07-2013 at 10:09 AM.

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    Zero Life
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rsthaliot View Post
    This video is a bad example. I saw in the video the BLM had a relic, WHM had ifrits cane, and the WAR had a relic plus all DL accessories. Trade those weapons and accessories for ilvl 40ish weapons and I bet that run wouldn't have went so well.
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    Madame Butterfly
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenkiei View Post
    Have you seen me say anything about CM/Praehere? There's a reason for that THOSE are the gearing dungeons and none really have gear requirements. I've specifically targeted AK because yes with Artemis Bow +1 I CAN carry a dps with a L40 weapon, but why should I have to carry someone who is effectively useless just because I'm geared? Should I never use the DF for fear of people who want to be carried? To anyone who says "people should be able to queue no matter how undergeared"

    1) Make a party of 4 friends.
    2) Go get a L40 weapon, leveling jewlery and AF.
    3) Put them on, try to clear AK, see how much fun you have.

    -----

    On another note: I would fully support gear requirements, preferrably avg ilevel for instances such as AK, Garuda, and Titan all of which cannot be completed with "whatever" gear.
    People like you are the whole problem with this game.
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