WARNING: DO NOT add a kick / boot feature.

[Farmer]

Please DO NOT add a boot / kick feature.

Heres why:

How many times have I ran into mean people in dungeons that would kick you for petty reasons? 100% of the time.

How many times have I came across afk'rs or bad mouthed people? 1% of the time.

If you add a kick feature it will be used to remove people who are undergeared and have every right to be in the party so they can progress to end game.

I am fortunate enough to have full top gear, so I did a test once, and I found people accepted me 99% of the time with my full top end gear on while when I used my AK or regular gear, people were mean to me 50% of the time, and would have kicked me for simple mistakes that I made during runs.

So I ask you this: Is it better to be kicked 50% of the time for things you cannot change, or is it better to experence afk people only 1% of the time you run dungeons?

One of the main reasons I love this game is that mean people cannot kick me for my mistakes or lack of gear.

[meJojo]

I can see jackasses kicking people running CM for their first time.

[Thunderz]

its needed no debate

[ByakkoSeven]

So lets vote people AFK, make it a token based confirmation that you're not AFK... not just "Are you AFK? Y/N?" if they fail to put in the token within 90seconds they get booted...
Win win for all, only downside is you'll still have ppl that are sitting there doing nothing who'll put in the token, that %age is pretty low and it takes some ballz to even do that. It'll at least mitigate the problems.

At any rate, I find most parties respond to positive/negative first impressions.when no one speaks 9/10 there's gonna be some raging if something (even something retardedly small and doesn't affect anything) goes wrong.
If you simply engage in conversation people seem to be less likely to be assclowns.

[Invz]

I completely agree with a vote kick feature as long as its a unanimous vote between all other members of the party. There are instances where a vote kick feature is needed very much. In the case of elitism for example trying to kick someone from your CM or prae run for coming in AF, it is not. Chances are if someone is trying to be petty there is at least one person in the party that isn't mean.

[Farmer]

To Invz: What of AK runs where three people of the same FC join a que, and are mean to you the whole way and just before the boss, they boot you for no good reason other then they had someone to pick on?

[AAAFate]

To Invz: What of AK runs where three people of the same FC join a que, and are mean to you the whole way and just before the boss, they boot you for no good reason other then they had someone to pick on?

Even if that does happen, I believe the cases of people being kicked for good reasons rather than people being kicked for 3 friends being jerks or what have you, would far out weigh the people doing it just for the trolols. I mean if there are three friends kicking someone out just for laughs right before end boss, guess this feature is good to have just so the three people can feel real "good" about themselves.

[Farmer]

Even if that does happen, I believe the cases of people being kicked for good reasons rather than people being kicked for 3 friends being jerks or what have you, would far out weigh the people doing it just for the trolols. I mean if there are three friends kicking someone out just for laughs right before end boss, guess this feature is good to have just so the three people can feel real "good" about themselves.

The fact is, this should NEVER happen and would probably happen more then afk'rs in party, why trade one horror (afkers) for another (being bullied). People should decide at the start if they want to run with each other and be completly commited to that until the end, unless there is an afk'r in party.

[Invz]

To Invz: What of AK runs where three people of the same FC join a que, and are mean to you the whole way and just before the boss, they boot you for no good reason other then they had someone to pick on?

I think thats kind of a stretch bro. If I were put in that situation by my FC I would probably still vote no unless the player in question lacks talent at his or her job. I don't join AK runs to troll people. I join AK runs to get myth tomes. If I am with a DPS or healer that is wearing pieces of AF and can still get through demon wall and doesn't die to trash mobs I am good.

[Farmer]

I think thats kind of a stretch bro. If I were put in that situation by my FC I would probably still vote no unless the player in question lacks talent at his or her job. I don't join AK runs to troll people. I join AK runs to get myth tomes. If I am with a DPS or healer that is wearing pieces of AF and can still get through demon wall and doesn't die to trash mobs I am good.

I think this goes back to my point, that you are booting someone for other reasons then just being afk, or badmouthing, which is the ONLY time someone should EVER be booted from a party. Otherwise dissolve the party if its a failure, dont use a system to boot people who need to learn, and you have agreed to be with until a certain point in a dungeon.