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  1. #51
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    Says who? They're mostly akin to the old AF weapons from XI, as they're neither massive upgrades nor hard to get.


    Takes a special kind of bad to be dead in the 5th phase of a 3 phase fight.
    The fight technically has more than 3 phases

    Beginning
    Weight
    Bombs
    Heart
    Final
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  2. #52
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    Ron_Burgundy's Avatar
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    Relena Peacecraft
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    Coeurl
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    Weaver Lv 29
    I think SE should like ban the people selling runs for a week, strip them of nearly all their gil and leave the buyers alone.
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  3. #53
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    BlaiseArath's Avatar
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    Blaise Destin
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    Says who? They're mostly akin to the old AF weapons from XI, as they're neither massive upgrades nor hard to get.
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    This. If anything the FFXI mindset is causing this kind of "Relics should be hard" thing These weapons are more like AF weapons than Relics. They're granted from a relatively easy quest-line. Titan isn't even too hard... Its just a Job-check really.
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  4. #54
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    It's natural to assume relics are meant to be hard to get when THEY'RE THE BEST WEAPON CURRENTLY IN THE GAME.
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  5. #55
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    GilbertLapine's Avatar
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    Malcolm Quill
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    Ultros
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I have an idea! Whenever you see "WTS Titan 500k," shout that you'll do it for free. That'll drive them out of business quick! Do enough runs pro-bono and they simply won't have a market -- problem solved.

    /thread
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  6. #56
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    Yucie's Avatar
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    Yucie Phoenix
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    They're more like AF weapons, than actual relics. The reason being, is the quest-line is actually quite simplistic and can be done in a matter of hours. You can do it in a day.

    Don't be fooled; the quests aren't hard. Titan is the only involved fight because he's a boss with more than one gimmick and he can easily wipe your party if people don't understand the procedure of his attacks. The reason more people don't down him, is because the general quality of players in this game is greatly lacking, generally speaking.

    They aren't hard to get; anyone can obtain them. The only reason they're the best weapons in the game (which is actually debatable when on the topic of Allagan weapons) is because the content is an EXTREMELY LIMITED pool. With more sources of content and other things added in the future, these easy-to-acquire weapons will eventually be replaced by something more hardcore. Things like Burtgang, or Excalibur - THOSE were difficult to obtain.
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  7. #57
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    ArkhamNative's Avatar
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    Santori Zhonets
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Burgundy View Post
    I think SE should like ban the people selling runs for a week, strip them of nearly all their gil and leave the buyers alone.
    I was wondering about this. Early crafters and gatherers were working within the system, being the few able to provide what the thousands rushing to Lv50 wanted to have. They racked up a mighty balance. SE took a look, then cleared them of any violations, but still seized up to 99% of their gil. This enterprise sounds like it will catch SE's attention in the same way. Don't count your virtual money when SE is judge, jury and banker.
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  8. #58
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    Gridania
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    Kit Cat
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Hm, rather than pay for a titan kill, I'd consider paying for people who are competent enough to not stand in shit. I've managed to see a handful in some pre-made parties I've joined that can do it fine. There's always 1-3 that just can't for the life of them not get hit.

    It's infuriating. This battle is only hard because you have to rely on 7 other people to not die.
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  9. #59
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    Invz's Avatar
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    Zero Life
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    It's natural to assume relics are meant to be hard to get when THEY'RE THE BEST WEAPON CURRENTLY IN THE GAME.
    Allagan weapons are better than relics. Those are hard to get.
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  10. #60
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Invz View Post
    Allagan weapons are better than relics. Those are hard to get.
    It's really debatable on a case by case basis if allagan is better than relic
    the damage and primary stats are exactly the same with secondary shifted around

    like would a lancer rather have accuracy and crit or determination and skill speed?
    or with paladin and bard you have same stats just shuffled around a little
    or the allagan axe is setup like a dd weapon while relic is tank
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