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  1. #41
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegri View Post
    There are some entitled little princesses in this thread it seems. So question for some of you, why do you NEED to buy your relic so much? What do you plan on doing with said relic after spending so much getting it? Raiding coil? because you're not doing that either without a set group, what's preventing you from doing titan with a set group if you will quickly find out coil can't be done either without one?
    they can do whatever they want with their relics, in the game they paid subscription fees for, on their computers, in their lives.

    these are their stories and you're not part of it.
    (5)

  2. #42
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    the endgame community is so degraded at this point it kind of just doesn't matter anymore

    to get darklight you need a decent grinding group who won't take you if you don't have relic
    to get relic you need a decent titan group who won't take you if you don't have darklight
    there are tons of people out there that are just unwilling to learn or gear up for titan and will just outright lie about it ruining the experience for others
    a lot of the people who can beat titan are unwilling to risk getting stuck with the aforementioned "bads" so they won't just join groups

    the raiding companies all shell up and segregate themselves from the rest of the world making bribery pretty much the only decent way to get a competent group and now that it's a known thing all the bad players are just grinding philo for crafting mats that the raiders buy then take the 10+ hours of money grinding right back for a 10 minute titan making the baddie be like "now i have a purple item so i'm all amazing" yet it doesn't change their standing in the world at all and put them behind almost half a darklight set
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  3. #43
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    Sasaku Saku
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegri View Post
    There are some entitled little princesses in this thread it seems. So question for some of you, why do you NEED to buy your relic so much? What do you plan on doing with said relic after spending so much getting it? Raiding coil? because you're not doing that either without a set group, what's preventing you from doing titan with a set group if you will quickly find out coil can't be done either without one?
    There are some entitled little elitists in this thread it seems. So question for some of you, why does the actions of others that you more than likely will NEVER play or group with effect you so much? Answer: not at all.
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    Last edited by sasakusaku; 10-07-2013 at 07:53 AM.

  4. #44
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    Is there going to be a traditional MMORPG structure where a small percentage of the player base has access to endgame content? How accessible is the endgame content?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi-L2P
    It’s like a stairway. We have first the level 50 story, we want everyone to be able to do that. And then the content steps up. If you complete this, you can move on to the next tier. And since this is a MMORPG, when new content comes in other players can start to take on older content. Things can be scaled through patches so that most players can access the content, but there will also be top-tier challenges for the hardcore players because we respect them as well.
    It’s like climbing a mountain. Like Mount Everest. At first you’re going to have just a few people that want to climb Everest and make it. But over patches the water is going to wash down over Everest and it’s going to become a little hill that many more players can climb over. But there will always be a mountain peak to climb for the top-tier players.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielta...ax-prime-2013/
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    Last edited by Sephirah; 10-07-2013 at 07:59 AM.

    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    There are some entitled little elitists in this thread it seems. So question for some of you, why does the actions of others that you more than likely will NEVER play or group with effect you so much? Answer: not at all.
    Because the actions of those who whine the loudest about difficulty are the ones mmo companies listen to because the vast majority of the time they're the ones that pay most of the bills. Any mmo worth mentioning in the past 10 years has been nerfed again and again because more and more people feel entitled to see all the content, to get all the best loot just because they pay a subscription. If someone is not willing to put in the same amount of effort the more hardcore do to see the hardest content then they do not deserve to see said content, your subscription allows you to play the game and anything beyond that is entirely up to the amount of time/effort you're willing to put in.
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    Last edited by Pellegri; 10-07-2013 at 08:04 AM.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegri View Post
    Because the actions of those who whine the loudest about difficulty are the ones mmo companies listen to because that vast majority of the time they're the ones that pay most of the bills. Any mmo worth mentioning in the past 10 years has been nerfed again and again because more and more people feel entitled to see all the content, to get all the best loot just because they pay a subscription.
    And so, how does people that pay for a kill effect that at all? They got their relic fast and easy, then move on. Only people that will be complaining is the ones who STILL can't get it done. Anyways, now the thread has devolved into elitists bitching about bs not even related to the thread: good show! Do you need a shoulder to cry on? I am here for ya! Oh the injustice of it all!
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  7. #47
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    Rei Caelum
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    people need to learn to dodge.speed dodging &awareness of positioning is the key to victory.
    Not sure if lack of skill or patience or the fact giving up easily make many buy Titan fight <.<,which is kind of cheap.In the end the sellers are the own who benefit from the whole crap.
    People who say they don't have time for this shouldn't play mmo.Everything is about having this badass gear > exp & road to gear is not relevant anymore ...
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  8. #48
    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Arya Stark
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    Relics are relics for a reason, they should be extremely hard to obtain
    Says who? They're mostly akin to the old AF weapons from XI, as they're neither massive upgrades nor hard to get.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aramyth View Post
    they are dead in phase 5 50% of the time.
    Takes a special kind of bad to be dead in the 5th phase of a 3 phase fight.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    Says who?
    I'll refer you to my previous post, where Yoshi-P says so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    Is there going to be a traditional MMORPG structure where a small percentage of the player base has access to endgame content? How accessible is the endgame content?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi-L2P
    It’s like a stairway. We have first the level 50 story, we want everyone to be able to do that. And then the content steps up. If you complete this, you can move on to the next tier. And since this is a MMORPG, when new content comes in other players can start to take on older content. Things can be scaled through patches so that most players can access the content, but there will also be top-tier challenges for the hardcore players because we respect them as well.
    It’s like climbing a mountain. Like Mount Everest. At first you’re going to have just a few people that want to climb Everest and make it. But over patches the water is going to wash down over Everest and it’s going to become a little hill that many more players can climb over. But there will always be a mountain peak to climb for the top-tier players.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielta...ax-prime-2013/
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    Takes a special kind of bad to be dead in the 5th phase of a 3 phase fight.
    Except some people consider it more than just a 3 phase fight. Whether you do or not, some think of each time he jumps before heart phase to be a new phase, making it 5 phases with 3 before heart(he gains a new ability each time he jumps, which in a lot of mmos is the start of a new phase), heart and then after heart.
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