What do you look for in a combat system?

[gifthorse]

lol this thread got owned by a Mod.

i know rite.

[Naqaj]

Interesting post, though I don't expect many surprises among the answers.


Responsiveness? - Single most important factor, also one of the most dire things lacking in xiv currently

Strategy? - Generally yes, though this requires further explanation. In combat or before combat?

Fast pace? - not neccessarily, harmful if Responsiveness isn't good enough

Slow pace? - no

Auto-attack? - no

Active/MANUAL attack?- yes

Combos? - depends on control scheme, good solution for restricted input devices (controllers)

Party vs. Single Mob?
Party vs. Party of Mobs?
Single Player vs. Party of Mobs? - Variation! This means, all three!

Acrobatics? - ??? Do you mean combat animations? I prefere more subtle, but fluid

Visuals? - ??? Do you mean special effects? Again, personal preference is not too flashy

Positioning? - subsumed under Strategy

Creativity with attacks? - subsumed under Strategy

Luck/Dice-roll systems? - no

[Rinsui]

A battle system that requires skill,
and not just better gear and higher levels.

(And hours upon hours upon hours of time: see Pandemonium Warden)

[Luso]

Responsiveness?
Yes

Strategy?
Yes monster and bosses

Fast pace?
Yes

Slow pace?
No

Auto-attack?
Yes

Active attack?
Yes

Combos?
Yes

Party vs. Single Mob?
Yes Definitely

Party vs. Party of Mobs?
Yes

Single Player vs. Party of Mobs?
Definitely No

Acrobatics?
Yes

Visuals?
Yes

Positioning?
Yes

Creativity with attacks?
Yes

Luck/Dice-roll systems?
Maybe later in an expansion.

[Rhomagus]

Interesting post, though I don't expect many surprises among the answers.

I know we're not that far into the thread but I'm surprised by the amount of people that are for a manual-attack. I'm actually one of them but I thought I was in a very small minority (maybe I still am.)

[Zhinse]

This thread sure puts into perspective on what people actually want in a combat system and now I can clearly see why so many people are frustrated with the current system.

Personally, I hope the upcoming system puts emphasis on Chess like positioning, in that its more strategic/tactical positioning than twitch positioning.

More importantly, I want a system that is clear on what its trying to be. The current battle system is a Active Turn based system more that seems like an action based system. I want the new thing to make it certain to all players about how to play and its rules.

[Physic]

This thread sure puts into perspective on what people actually want in a combat system and now I can clearly see why so many people are frustrated with the current system.

Personally, I hope the upcoming system puts emphasis on Chess like positioning, in that its more strategic/tactical positioning than twitch positioning.

More importantly, I want a system that is clear on what its trying to be. The current battle system is a Active Turn based system more that seems like an action based system. I want the new thing to make it certain to all players about how to play and its rules.

what do you mean by chess like positioning, as in you go to one position and stay there for the whole fight because thats your good range?

The current system has a long learning curve, but the exp limit difficulty doesnt require you to learn it at all, so i think thats the real problem.

[Zhinse]

what do you mean by chess like positioning, as in you go to one position and stay there for the whole fight because thats your good range?.

Sorta. not for the whole fight of course, but keeping specific spacing. Sort of like Street fighter.

[RedAffinity]

As of right now? I'd really love when I attempt a basic attack, it doesn't take 2 seconds before it executes, and other times instant. What's the problem, servers? It's incredibly not fun being front-line with this kind of lag

[darkstarpoet1]

What do you look for in a combat system? a fun and enjoyable system.

Responsiveness? yes

Strategy? deffinitely

Fast pace? yes

Slow pace? only if i want to go afk or go to sleep.

Auto-attack? same as above. super boring system that may as well be called in-game botting.

Active/MANUAL attack? yes, deffinitely

Combos? yes

Party vs. Single Mob? it's ok, but more fun party v party

Party vs. Party of Mobs? yes love grouping

Single Player vs. Party of Mobs? fun in the short term, but not an every encounter

Acrobatics? not really necessary, but like nice animations.

Visuals? yes, anything to make it more fun and entertaining

Positioning? deffinitely i love strategy

Creativity with attacks? yes, trying different features is fun

Luck/Dice-roll systems? nah not a big fan of the luck system.