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    lun4tic's Avatar
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    Duty finder is a joke

    It takes 80-110 minutes for me to find a group for AK or primal hard mode, and the average wait time is never higher than 20 minutes. Who the hell is getting into these dungeons so quickly? Why the hell does anybody who's been grouped already just watch people drop in and out? Just fill the group and get it moving.

    Or maybe it's time to make healers and tanks a lot less frustrating to play, so we'd see a few more?
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    People wanted this system of everything possible being an instance instead of an Open World MMO with segmented instances (think FFXI where you have BCNM/Instances for important stuff outside of world king spawns.)

    So no matter what, as long as we use a content finder this will be an issue - yes, it's an issue in every other populated MMORPG as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lun4tic View Post
    Who the hell is getting into these dungeons so quickly?
    Tanks and healers.

    It takes 80-110 minutes for me to find a group for AK or primal hard mode
    Welcome to the world of DPS. There's plenty of other stuff to do while you wait.

    Or maybe it's time to make healers and tanks a lot less frustrating to play, so we'd see a few more?
    They're not that frustrating to play, but I haven't reached endgame on anything other than a DPS, so I wouldn't know about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamesmart View Post
    Tanks and healers.



    Welcome to the world of DPS. There's plenty of other stuff to do while you wait.



    They're not that frustrating to play, but I haven't reached endgame on anything other than a DPS, so I wouldn't know about that.
    As most know, Tanks and Healers are generally the most boring to play.
    Heal - heal heal heal, debuff, heal.
    Aggro - No cool looking skills, just sits there and takes hits.
    People wanna spank than tank or heal. Quit making those 2 classes a snoozefest to play you may have more healers and tanks.
    Also the two most difficult, you have to think on your feet and the moment people blame the tank or healer, they stop playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arriverderci View Post
    As most know, Tanks and Healers are generally the most boring to play.
    Heal - heal heal heal, debuff, heal.
    Aggro - No cool looking skills, just sits there and takes hits.
    People wanna spank than tank or heal. Quit making those 2 classes a snoozefest to play you may have more healers and tanks.
    Also the two most difficult, you have to think on your feet and the moment people blame the tank or healer, they stop playing.
    I dont think its that people think tanks or healers are boring to play...I think it has more to do with what WoW has done to those 2 roles. What i mean is....in WoW if you are a tank or a healer and you screw the smallest thing in the world up during any fight in the game, you instantly get bashed non stop and usually vote kicked out of the party you were in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm4231 View Post
    I dont think its that people think tanks or healers are boring to play...I think it has more to do with what WoW has done to those 2 roles. What i mean is....in WoW if you are a tank or a healer and you screw the smallest thing in the world up during any fight in the game, you instantly get bashed non stop and usually vote kicked out of the party you were in.
    Same thing happens here.. just can't get kicked.

    Just tonight I had an ACN that had never played healer or tank telling me how bad I was, changing my marks, refusing to follow the marks I put up, and just generally being a dbag. My favorite part was being called gimp while having the best gear in every slot but one.

    How many people really want to play healer/tank, get told you suck, your job is easy (see this topic ^) and if you don't do everything perfect you deserve any number of insults. Now bad dps (which these guys almost always are) are free to get away with it.
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    Last edited by Rochetm; 10-06-2013 at 01:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    Same thing happens here.. just can't get kicked.

    Just tonight I had an ACN that had never played healer or tank telling me how bad I was, changing my marks, refusing to follow the marks I put up, and just generally being a dbag. My favorite part was being called gimp while having the best gear in every slot but one.

    How many people really want to play healer/tank, get told you suck, your job is easy (see this topic ^) and if you don't do everything perfect you deserve any number of insults. Now bad dps (which these guys almost always are) are free to get away with it.
    I've honestly never really had a problem with people bashing my tanking skills in this game besides an occasional "wtf". Let somebody call me out though, i'll be quick to tell them how many aoes they failed to dodge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    Same thing happens here.. just can't get kicked.

    Just tonight I had an ACN that had never played healer or tank telling me how bad I was, changing my marks, refusing to follow the marks I put up, and just generally being a dbag. My favorite part was being called gimp while having the best gear in every slot but one.

    How many people really want to play healer/tank, get told you suck, your job is easy (see this topic ^) and if you don't do everything perfect you deserve any number of insults. Now bad dps (which these guys almost always are) are free to get away with it.
    Just leave group , they lose in the end you lose 15 mins they lose 40 mins + . Almost no tank is going to click join a group in progress when they don't have to so the group is over as soon as you leave . Their loss .
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    Rhas Itiron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    How many people really want to play healer/tank, get told you suck,
    You know there is a fix for that. A very simple fix. Just... switch... tabs... make one for the ones you want to see and leave out party chat. Simple.

    At the very least you can simply click on the gear and uncheck party chat
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    Gladiator Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Arriverderci View Post
    As most know, Tanks and Healers are generally the most boring to play.
    Heal - heal heal heal, debuff, heal.
    Aggro - No cool looking skills, just sits there and takes hits.
    People wanna spank than tank or heal. Quit making those 2 classes a snoozefest to play you may have more healers and tanks.
    Tanking in of itself is fine. However it could use some adjustments, like some of the abilities being removed from the global cooldown, which enables you to use them more freely and effectively. It then further encourages you to be a more aware and responsive and finally proactive, to ensure more control of situations.

    And that's a win for everyone.


    That of course doesn't change the duty finder situation - there ARE plenty of tanks.
    What I think is most likely is that because tanks/healers are needed more(and there are some % less of them), they get into groups quick and early. They get their items sooner and then move on to no longer queing.
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