Burnt out before the real content

[xXHalloweenTrixXx]

Why ask that when we already have that for Primal Hard mode.

Thats the point. Primals HM is a mess because its RNGed. People could do the same thing 100+ times and no guarantee of anything. That to me is worst than just grinding tomes, because at least with tomes it equates to your effort and time. You know after x amount of runs you will attain y.

[Onnslaught]

The game is still really new. There aren't a lot of ways to get gear right now and that is kind of to be expected. I think the biggest issue is there is really only 1 or 2 ways to get Darklight/upgrade AF gear. If people were doing different things other than farming the same 2 places (AK and CM) players wouldn't be getting bored as easily. Every MMO I have played has had a problem of lack of content upon release and so for me I just expect it. Things should be getting better over time with more options to gear yourself.

I personally don't have a problem of Darklight not dropping in dungeons... This gear is equivalent to the Crystal Tower gear (which should be in the game already, thus giving people more content to farm) so it shouldn't be dropping in the entry 50 dungeons. It really is too bad they couldn't have CT out and balanced for release because it forces the players to grind the same thing over and over thus getting bored.

[Celestine]

I personally don't have a problem of Darklight not dropping in dungeons... This gear is equivalent to the Crystal Tower gear (which should be in the game already, thus giving people more content to farm) so it shouldn't be dropping in the entry 50 dungeons. It really is too bad they couldn't have CT out and balanced for release because it forces the players to grind the same thing over and over thus getting bored.

Nah CT gear is going to be ilvl 80. Darklight is ilvl70

[Onnslaught]

Nah CT gear is going to be ilvl 80. Darklight is ilvl70

Oh? I thought coils was a higher gear level than anything else in the game, even CT to this point. Either way if CT was in the game there would be more stuff for people to be running.

[EdwinLi]

Oh? I thought coils was a higher gear level than anything else in the game, even CT to this point. Either way if CT was in the game there would be more stuff for people to be running.

ya but it still part of the small box of "require AK gear and DL gear" contents.

There needs to be something outsides of this content. Maybe add a New Game+ Storyline quest chain which has New Adventurers playing the storyline again as lvl 50 content version but this time the storyline is the Legacy Version of the storyline rather than New Adventurer storyline.

Legacy Players can have their New Game+ storyline be the New Adventurer since New Game+ storyline will be a what if scenario but the New Game+ story content is set to be lvl 50 contents.

This is as opposed to... what, exactly?

Maybe you shouldn't be playing an RPG? RPG gameplay is inherently stat based. If you want something else, then what you're looking for is not an RPG.

I don't have a problem with RPG.

I enjoy RPGs but there needs to be somethign more than simple gear grind at endgame.

Some RPGs actually provide epilogue contents to do outside of endgame gear grind contents. The epilogue content can add adition hours of play time that won't require endgame content stuff but still provide time to switch between endgame and progressing in epilogue stuff.

[Onnslaught]

ya but it still part of the small box of "require AK gear and DL gear" contents.

There needs to be something outsides of this content. Maybe add a New Game+ Storyline quest chain which has New Adventurers playing the storyline again as lvl 50 content version but this time the storyline is the Legacy Version of the storyline rather than New Adventurer storyline.

Legacy Players can have their New Game+ storyline be the New Adventurer since New Game+ storyline will be a what if scenario but the New Game+ story content is set to be lvl 50 contents.

I guess? I find it pretty standard to have to farm gear before you can do harder raid type of content. If it wasn't tomes you were farming it would still be farming dungeons to hope you get a drop to gear yourself out. Unless you want a fresh 50 to be able to do no farming and just start doing raids and stuff but I don't want to play an MMO like that. It sucks farming AK and CM for the tomes to get gear but it weeds out the people who aren't willing to put in the time to gear their character.

I have no interest in anything story related content at 50 personally. The way the story ended at 50 really killed my interest for the game. I don't want to put out any spoilers for people but I will just say the things you accomplish at the end of the story made me not give two shits about the story anymore. It was way too easy to resolve the conflict so to speak.

[EdwinLi]

The game is still really new. There aren't a lot of ways to get gear right now and that is kind of to be expected. I think the biggest issue is there is really only 1 or 2 ways to get Darklight/upgrade AF gear. If people were doing different things other than farming the same 2 places (AK and CM) players wouldn't be getting bored as easily. Every MMO I have played has had a problem of lack of content upon release and so for me I just expect it. Things should be getting better over time with more options to gear yourself.

I personally don't have a problem of Darklight not dropping in dungeons... This gear is equivalent to the Crystal Tower gear (which should be in the game already, thus giving people more content to farm) so it shouldn't be dropping in the entry 50 dungeons. It really is too bad they couldn't have CT out and balanced for release because it forces the players to grind the same thing over and over thus getting bored.

the problem I find in endgame is everything in endgame requires AK and Darklight gear to have the stats needed for endgame. There is no content outside of the "require AK gear and DL gear" contents.

FF14 is currently stuck in the small box that most MMORPG uses for their endgame being grinding for better gear just to access higher content so you can grind for even more better gear again.

[shikarin]

the problem I find in endgame is everything in endgame requires AK and Darklight gear to have the stats needed for endgame. There is no content outside of the "require AK gear and DL gear" contents.

FF14 is currently stuck in the small box that most MMORPG uses for their endgame being grinding for better gear just to access higher content so you can grind for even more better gear again.

This is as opposed to... what, exactly?

Maybe you shouldn't be playing an RPG? RPG gameplay is inherently stat based. If you want something else, then what you're looking for is not an RPG.

[aswedishtiger]

I really dont understand the quenching oil....you grind dungeons endlessly just to get enough gear to kill Titan and then guess what!?!? You now get to go right back to grinding out 9 more CMs just to get an item for a weapon in which you've basically already earned from beating the tough fights

I second this

[shikarin]

Let me properly identify your problem.

You have no problem with tomes.

You just don't think running CM, AK, primals, is fun (anymore?).

I'm not saying you're right or wrong to think so, just let's not mistake one for the other.