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    Ninjiitstu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coramac View Post
    Can you post the raw numbers? What do you mean you had to manually calculate?

    Evasion has no effect on EHP.
    Those are the raw results. Hits / misses effect your parry rate. You cannot parry a miss. The APP takes the total attacks and does not take into account misses. So for example, if I got hit 5000 times, and parried 1254 of them, its 25.08% parry.

    Evasion has a rather large effect on EHP, though I wasn't testing that and there is no real way to test it currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjiitstu View Post
    Evasion has a rather large effect on EHP, though I wasn't testing that and there is no real way to test it currently.
    Technically the best mitigation is not getting hit in the first place.

    (I'm agreeing with you btw, don't think I'm telling you you shouldn't actually be getting hit, lol, seeing "Dodge" pop up on mountain busters is a lot of fun)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjiitstu View Post
    Those are the raw results. Hits / misses effect your parry rate. You cannot parry a miss. The APP takes the total attacks and does not take into account misses. So for example, if I got hit 5000 times, and parried 1254 of them, its 25.08% parry.
    No, there's scant evidence of a multi-roll system.

    Evasion has a rather large effect on EHP, though I wasn't testing that and there is no real way to test it currently.
    Nope, it affects efficiency not EHP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coramac View Post
    No, there's scant evidence of a multi-roll system.
    Go let a level 20 mob hit you for 30 minutes. If you think your parry rate is actually 6%, like the app shows, then there is no convincing you anyway. :-P


    Quote Originally Posted by Coramac View Post
    Nope, it affects efficiency not EHP.
    That is not correct. Over the course of many encounters your static X% to dodge will DIRECTLY impact your EHP by the same %. It is the same thing as parry or block reduction, only more effective. But why are we even arguing this? I wasn't testing it to begin with.

    Finally: It appears tomahawk is effected by BOTH STR and DEX. Getting some pretty sexy numbers from a skill that is otherwise destined to pull mobs. Not really relevant for PvE as you need to maim anyway for DPS, but might be a factor for PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjiitstu View Post
    Finally: It appears tomahawk is effected by BOTH STR and DEX. Getting some pretty sexy numbers from a skill that is otherwise destined to pull mobs. Not really relevant for PvE as you need to maim anyway for DPS, but might be a factor for PvP.
    As in; DEX also increases its damage on account of being ranged? Any ballpark numbers in comparison to say Heavy Swing? Because this is very interesting.
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