Square Enix Revises Earnings Forecasts For Major Loss

[Ostia]

i think it was (wow excluded) one of the most successful mmos out there, considering how long it is on the market and that for many years the subscriptions increased year by year. The only other mmo that managed to do so was/and is EVE online,
but most other games (wow excluded) didnt manage that. Im not sure how it is today, my numbers are from 2010 i think but that doesnt change the facts in that matter.

Eq/Eq2 said hi

[Cairdeas]

Eq/Eq2 said hi

EQ did not maintain a positive influx of new players as long as FFXI did.

[Anty]

Eq/Eq2 said hi

there was a reason for EQ to got he F2P + P2P way. And like Cairdeas said, the numbers were not half as constant as ffxi had.
I think they had a time outstanding the ffxi subscriptions but that dindt last very long. FFXI playerbase increased many years.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

there was a reason for EQ to got he F2P + P2P way. And like Cairdeas said, the numbers were not half as constant as ffxi had.
I think they had a time outstanding the ffxi subscriptions but that dindt last very long. FFXI playerbase increased many years.

Yeah, because the game is so ancient that they aren't charging people for the old content as a way to garner more population and then charge them when they run out of stuff to do and have to get the newer content. Has nothing to do with the current or future model for MMO gaming.

[Anty]

This is so unrelated to FFXIV it's actually a little funny.

@FFXIII:

It sold well, on both ends of the globe, and no one can say "we didn't know the game was bad!" or whatever excuse can be given, as the game was released 3-4 months in Japan before the western release and there were tons of Jtv streams, youtube playthroughs and importer reviews and despite those, it still sold well.

Square also said recently that Chrono series would return and were testing the waters with the DS remake.

@Anty

People DO says XI wasn't successful, they also say XI was a failure and a horrible MMORPG, yet I guarantee they played the games XI alone funded.

oh sorry, im no native speaker, i wanted to point out that its silly how many people call ffxi unsuccesseful... well my bad

[Vackashken]

Its funny to see the forum hens squawking in defense of this game and attacking a guy who made a perfectly legitimate post meant to bring forth queries rather then slander.

This debacle has cost tens of millions to produce. It's been free to play for over 7 months costing them substantial losses in wages, server fees, etc etc. If any of you think this monstrous FUBAR of a game will turn around for before a year or more you're out of your minds. Does this mean I nessisarily think its going to be thrown into a dumpter? No, but thinking it won't be - or its impossible - for it to be touched by their bad financial year (and saying bad it putting it kindly) remind me how laughably blind and defensive people are in all things referencing this game.

The guy brought to light a very valid and concerning situation to this already belligerent game. He gets greeted by digital pitchforks and torches.

[Jennestia]

The guy brought to light a very valid and concerning situation to this already belligerent game. He gets greeted by digital pitchforks and torches.

People also said the first time someone posted financial information without being properly informed was that XIV's release was why they adjusted it.

Protip: Every JP studio directly or indirectly affected by the earthquake and tsunami had a loss and readjusted their forecasts as well.

If any of you think this monstrous FUBAR of a game will turn around for before a year or more you're out of your minds.

I think this is something you created, as most people who aren't overly pessimistic agree it will take a long time for XIV to finish it's redesign, whereas others feel it should be finished in weeks if not 1 month or "SE is too slow."

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

The guy brought to light a very valid and concerning situation to this already belligerent game. He gets greeted by digital pitchforks and torches.

It's not a valid or legitimate concern unless people are trained in finance. If you have no financial background then you have no real insight into what a financial report actually says.

Let alone the fact that the article STATES as plain as day that the forecast had to be adjusted due to the earthquake means that the forecasted loss has little to do with SE's financial future and NOTHING directly to do with FFXIV at all.

[Cairdeas]

Actually to be honest the Posted losses are probably a result of PSN being down as SE has TONS of content on PSN that you can not use or download with PSN being down.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Actually to be honest the Posted losses are probably a result of PSN being down as SE has TONS of content on PSN that you can not use or download with PSN being down.

yeah.. i have the promotional codes of ffi and ii waiting to be used