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    MeowyWowie's Avatar
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    Meowy Wowie
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    So strategies formed around exploits have become acceptable? Really?

    This needs to be fixed. It's pretty f*cking sad that one mechanic of the fight can be more or less ignored by killing yourself and reraising with no penalty aside from mp cost.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GqalvXB6kc

    This is hardly the only fight I've seen people using the raise/no weakness exploit. Nearly half of the streams I watch include people abusing this. Please fix it.
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    Should be a bannable offense honestly. I wonder what happened to the Square-Enix that had backbone.

    In the end I blame Square-Enix more than the FCs. If they don't punish then people will abuse.
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    Last edited by Zezlar; 10-06-2013 at 05:27 AM.

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    I only recently heard about the raise/medica II bug and was told I was a baddie for not knowing how to do it. >.>

    Generally, I try to avoid using bugs like this because it becomes a crutch. Then if it gets fixed, your sol on what to do after.

    Plus it could be grounds for banning if abused to much...I don't think that will happen here since I really doubt SE cares but you never know.
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    Last edited by sasakusaku; 10-06-2013 at 05:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    I only recently heard about the raise/medica II bug and was told I was a baddie for not knowing how to do it.
    I've seen this behavior, too. It's really hilarious when someone eats dirt on Titan repeatedly and then blames the healer for not raisebugging him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Um, I don't think this is a bug, I think it's intended.
    Um, I don't think getting around res de-buff is intended. Res-debuff is supposed to teach you to...avoid things, play right, and not DIE.

    This bug gets around it and I severly doubt it's intended. Perhaps someone has an official response on this issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    Um, I don't think getting around res de-buff is intended. Res-debuff is supposed to teach you to...avoid things, play right, and not DIE.

    This bug gets around it and I severly doubt it's intended. Perhaps someone has an official response on this issue?
    Not saying I support the use of Medica to remove the debuff, but let's be real...it's really not all that potent of a debuff unless you're getting killed and raised repeatedly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrial View Post
    Not saying I support the use of Medica to remove the debuff, but let's be real...it's really not all that potent of a debuff unless you're getting killed and raised repeatedly.
    I'd argue that it's fairly significant in this fight along with Titan. You can see in the video that they're even timing their raises over their voice chat to purposely exploit it to completely negate any risk from conflagrations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    Res-debuff is supposed to teach you to...avoid things, play right, and not DIE.
    I'm not taking sides on the issue (I'm still looking for a party for turn 1!), but I have to call you out on this: you may be right, you may be wrong, but too many people bring fire and brimstone to the forums concerning what things are "supposed" to do. I'm sorry, unless you were actually on the dev team, or you have a direct line to YoshiP and asked him yourself, you simply don't know what things are "supposed" to do until they make an official statement on it. I may be wrong, but I don't remember hearing any official explanation of the resurrection sickness aside from that it simply is.

    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    When a bug is so huge and people are relying on it to clear content...
    Just a comment to further this: if people have to rely on the bug to clear the content, the content shouldn't be in release. SE went retard mode releasing Coil before Crystal Tower, it's as simple as that.
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    Last edited by GilbertLapine; 10-06-2013 at 06:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilbertLapine View Post
    Just a comment to further this: if people have to rely on the bug to clear the content, the content shouldn't be in release. SE went retard mode releasing Coil before Crystal Tower, it's as simple as that.
    Or maybe there's nothing wrong with the content and those players are simply bad at the game?
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