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    MeowyWowie's Avatar
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    So strategies formed around exploits have become acceptable? Really?

    This needs to be fixed. It's pretty f*cking sad that one mechanic of the fight can be more or less ignored by killing yourself and reraising with no penalty aside from mp cost.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GqalvXB6kc

    This is hardly the only fight I've seen people using the raise/no weakness exploit. Nearly half of the streams I watch include people abusing this. Please fix it.
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    Should be a bannable offense honestly. I wonder what happened to the Square-Enix that had backbone.

    In the end I blame Square-Enix more than the FCs. If they don't punish then people will abuse.
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    Last edited by Zezlar; 10-06-2013 at 05:27 AM.

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    Sasaku Saku
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    I only recently heard about the raise/medica II bug and was told I was a baddie for not knowing how to do it. >.>

    Generally, I try to avoid using bugs like this because it becomes a crutch. Then if it gets fixed, your sol on what to do after.

    Plus it could be grounds for banning if abused to much...I don't think that will happen here since I really doubt SE cares but you never know.
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    Last edited by sasakusaku; 10-06-2013 at 05:38 AM.

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    Sasaku Saku
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Um, I don't think this is a bug, I think it's intended.
    Um, I don't think getting around res de-buff is intended. Res-debuff is supposed to teach you to...avoid things, play right, and not DIE.

    This bug gets around it and I severly doubt it's intended. Perhaps someone has an official response on this issue?
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    Inu Akurei
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    Just fix the medica bug. That's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    Um, I don't think getting around res de-buff is intended. Res-debuff is supposed to teach you to...avoid things, play right, and not DIE.

    This bug gets around it and I severly doubt it's intended. Perhaps someone has an official response on this issue?
    Not saying I support the use of Medica to remove the debuff, but let's be real...it's really not all that potent of a debuff unless you're getting killed and raised repeatedly.
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    Raikki Zero
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    I only recently heard about the raise/medica II bug and was told I was a baddie for not knowing how to do it.
    I've seen this behavior, too. It's really hilarious when someone eats dirt on Titan repeatedly and then blames the healer for not raisebugging him.
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    Ohthere Blackthorn
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    it's a pretty interesting bug to say the least and takes some coordination to pull off during combat. I wouldn't mind seeing it become a feature although the game will have to be re-balanced around the fact it exists.
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    They recently fixed an exploit and reported on it.. so they do fix em its just a matter of time. They post info when they fix bugs, on the lodestone "news" section, "maintenance" and also "Hotfixes" here in this forum.
    People who use these things are risking getting their account banned if it is deemed an exploit later on and just because it has yet to be fixed or reported, does not mean for certain that it is not an exploit.

    Be careful folks when ppl try to pressure you into using something if you are uncertain whether or not it is an unintended feature in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrial View Post
    Not saying I support the use of Medica to remove the debuff, but let's be real...it's really not all that potent of a debuff unless you're getting killed and raised repeatedly.
    I'd argue that it's fairly significant in this fight along with Titan. You can see in the video that they're even timing their raises over their voice chat to purposely exploit it to completely negate any risk from conflagrations.
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