Turn 5 Downed by JP Group? Exploits or Legit?

[NoirAsato]

Their lodestone hasn't been updated, he still doesn't have the mapping achievement.
And is still wearing the Valor Coronet.

That could be true that it has not been updated. I thought it should have been updated by now; apologies if that is the case.

It's just very hard for me to believe people when this exploit has been up for a while -- you cannot tell if anything is legitimate.

But to debunk my argument that I stated earlier: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...0/achievement/

Seems like Coffee Break has the achievement for it.

However, it's not hard to make achievements private.

[BlossomRose]

My PLD tank with four pieces of ilvl 90 gear (Curtana + 1, allagan shield, earrings and ring of fending) + full darklight has 6,085 HP with food and party buffs.

That PLD tank in the screenshot has a little less than that to be sitting at 5.8k. At least one or two pieces of Amdapor Keep gear.

Look at the screenshot again.

He doesn't have a food buff.

So yeah he'd be at about 5.9k ~ 5.95k if he did. Which is about right.

And again, it really depends on which pieces of tanking gear you luck out on having. If you get the chest and legs your HP will skyrocket. If you only get the belt and accessories, your HP isn't gonna climb up very fast.

[Serade]

itt: People who don't know Turn 5 and what a geared paladin is.

They admitted it was bugged on twitter, no ones killed it legit.

[Elvine]

Checking XIVarmory.com Shows that AVID and Coffee Break FC's have beaten this fight also.

Check the player achievements for Rhowan Wanderer (Gilgamesh) and Defiant Of (Behemoth)

I'm curious to know if this is Legit or Bugged.

If they did it properly then mega Congrats!

Reminder, there is an achievement for clearing Coil...

"The Binds That Tie I"

Coffee Break has this achievement, Avid does not. (They some how bugged the encounter and was able to get the map exploration achievement.)

CB is on my server and I already spoke with their Master. In our conversation he admits to exploiting.

[Syncness]

Well that's 24 people that have beaten it.

Yoshi didn't say it had to be legit!

[Sylvanna]

Well that's 24 people that have beaten it.

Yoshi didn't say it had to be legit!

32, if you include the the one from Moogle.

[Faction]

Look at the screenshot again.

He doesn't have a food buff.

So yeah he'd be at about 5.9k ~ 5.95k if he did. Which is about right.

And again, it really depends on which pieces of tanking gear you luck out on having. If you get the chest and legs your HP will skyrocket. If you only get the belt and accessories, your HP isn't gonna climb up very fast.

That really isn't right. The first kill of turn 5 isn't going to be a paladin with 5800hp with ak gear, it will be a paladin with 6300+ hp with dl/ilevel 90's.

[BlossomRose]

I disagree. While it's true Turn 5 is hard, Turn 5 is not a gear check fight. It's an execution fight. It's a RNG fight. The first legit kill of Turn 5 will have nothing to do with gear, and everything to do with execution.

Your tank having 5.8k, 6k, 6.2k or 6.4k HP bears absolutely no importance for Turn 5. It's all about the rest of the group being able to deal with all the crap going on during the fight.

And again, 5.8k doesn't mean "in AK gear". 5.8k means "full DL with Relic+1" or "full DL with Relic and Allagan belt + another accessory" or a couple of other possible variations. 5.8k could also mean this is a tank in half Allagan gear who put his stats into Strength instead of Vitality.

You'd have to be insanely full of yourself to think because someone has X HP then he is barred from progressing further than you. Turn 5 is an execution check. Whatever group manages to get the fight done perfectly will beat it, not whatever group has the best gear.

[Pellegri]

Honestly what the first kill will come down to is ping and how close you are to your datacenter, which ya.....Japan being right ontop of theirs. I'd have to agree that without a video this means next to nothing and should be written off as an exploit(which they even said it was). Gear has some merit on this fight but going by everyones gear whether the paladin was as geared or not they all seemed to have it gearwise, the rest all comes down to mechanics and again ping.

[Xbob42]

I disagree. While it's true Turn 5 is hard, Turn 5 is not a gear check fight. It's an execution fight. It's a RNG fight. The first legit kill of Turn 5 will have nothing to do with gear, and everything to do with execution.

Your tank having 5.8k, 6k, 6.2k or 6.4k HP bears absolutely no importance for Turn 5. It's all about the rest of the group being able to deal with all the crap going on during the fight.

And again, 5.8k doesn't mean "in AK gear". 5.8k means "full DL with Relic+1" or "full DL with Relic and Allagan belt + another accessory" or a couple of other possible variations. 5.8k could also mean this is a tank in half Allagan gear who put his stats into Strength instead of Vitality.

You'd have to be insanely full of yourself to think because someone has X HP then he is barred from progressing further than you. Turn 5 is an execution check. Whatever group manages to get the fight done perfectly will beat it, not whatever group has the best gear.

While I totally agree that the fight isn't a big gear check, you can clearly see he's wearing a Hoplite Tabard from AK in the screenshot.