Turn 5 Downed by JP Group? Exploits or Legit?

[Yuichi]

I am curious to, but on a side note during WOTK and some CATA that one "best guild" used exploits to get worlds first then reported so they safe and people still counted it, so would this count to or we doing double standards?

[Xilrasis]

I am curious to, but on a side note during WOTK and some CATA that one "best guild" used exploits to get worlds first then reported so they safe and people still counted it, so would this count to or we doing double standards?

Which encounters/exploits would you be referring to? Genuinely curious -- wracking my brain and can't recall which they may be.

[Yuichi]

Which encounters/exploits would you be referring to? Genuinely curious -- wracking my brain and can't recall which they may be.

Ulduar with the flower buff stealing from mages is first that comes to mind. Forgot guild name but they did a few more and never got banned because they reported and people put it on that one site as record. They EU based not the NA one. They one that said "hard more yogg impossible" till STARS did it.

[Onolock]

Which encounters/exploits would you be referring to? Genuinely curious -- wracking my brain and can't recall which they may be.

He's talking about Ensidia(iirc) bugging the valks on HLK with grenades so you never have to dps the valks since they can't drop you off. They knowingly exploited and got the ban hammer/lost all respect in the raiding community. That was probably the biggest example.