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    Sephirah's Avatar
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    Nim Loki
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Faction View Post
    You're wrong, I had 5.8k pre defiance in a full party with 4 pieces of AK gear.
    Paladin and Warrior HP are COMPLETELY different. You can't say "because a WAR has 5.8k hp in AK gear so can a PLD"

    It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for a PALADIN to have 5.8k hp WITHOUT food in mostly AK gear. 1 or 2 pieces sure, but all those others are going to be DL, AF2, Allagan.
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    Last edited by Sephirah; 10-08-2013 at 07:19 AM.

    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

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    Faction Mal'ganis
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    Paladin and Warrior HP are COMPLETELY different. You can't say "because a WAR has 5.8k hp in AK gear so can a PLD"

    It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for a PALADIN to have 5.8k hp WITHOUT food in mostly AK gear. 1 or 2 pieces sure, but all those others are going to be DL, AF2, Allagan.
    PAL and WAR base health is about a 5 vit difference assuming same race... lol

    "COMPLETELY" different

    tell me more about something you haven't researched at all
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    Last edited by Faction; 10-08-2013 at 10:41 AM.

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    Pellegri Testament
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Faction View Post
    PAL and WAR base health is about a 5 vit difference assuming same race... lol

    "COMPLETELY" different

    tell me more about something you haven't researched at all
    He's not talking about "base" health, he's talking about health between paladins and warriors considering paladins do not get a self buff for their health like warriors do. You ever seen a warrior with 2k+ health than a paladin in equivalent gear? well that's all because of that magical defiance buff that you seem to have failed to notice since you think the health between pal/war is the same. Please do not say "well my health without defiance is the same as a paladins", well guess what if you aren't using defiance as a warrior you're a bad warrior if you're tanking anything(paladins do not get a health buff with their enmity buff like wars do).
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    Last edited by Pellegri; 10-08-2013 at 10:55 AM.

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    Wexism Sync
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Faction View Post
    PAL and WAR base health is about a 5 vit difference assuming same race... lol

    "COMPLETELY" different

    tell me more about something you haven't researched at all
    I'm no Warrior, but don't they have a skill that increased health by 25% or something?
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    Wexism Sync - Tonberry (JP) - Eikon
    http://www.xivarmory.com/character/2501717

    WHM Healing Spreadsheet
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/107651-WHM-Healing-Spreadsheet

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    Kalaan Elista
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Faction View Post
    PAL and WAR base health is about a 5 vit difference assuming same race... lol

    "COMPLETELY" different

    tell me more about something you haven't researched at all
    A PLD needs 460+ VIT to reach 5800 hp. Now please, stop it.
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    Vali Bergthora
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    The entire debate about tank HP and gear comes down to this:

    Party A got to Turn 5 and supposedly cleared it (that it was proven false is a side-note). Party A's tank is wearing some AK gear and "only" has 5.8k HP without food.

    Party B, which is probably stuck on Turn 4, if not 1 or 2, has a tank who probably has better gear than Party A's tank. Naturally, Party B's tank is super butthurt that he isn't as privileged as Party A's tank and feels the need to complain on the forums.

    TL;DR: some geared tanks are butthurt that a less geared tank is further along in the raiding scene than they are.
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