Turn 5 Downed by JP Group? Exploits or Legit?

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All that means is you're a vit Paladin...He's most likely a paladin that put points into STR. I'm in Full Darklight with 1level90 ring and holy shield +1 and I only have 5.4k because I took Mitigation and threat instead of empty hp.

well no paladin dumb enough to take str is going to kill this boss until it's nerfed, so I think that is unlikely

I disagree. While it's true Turn 5 is hard, Turn 5 is not a gear check fight. It's an execution fight. It's a RNG fight. The first legit kill of Turn 5 will have nothing to do with gear, and everything to do with execution.

Your tank having 5.8k, 6k, 6.2k or 6.4k HP bears absolutely no importance for Turn 5. It's all about the rest of the group being able to deal with all the crap going on during the fight.

And again, 5.8k doesn't mean "in AK gear". 5.8k means "full DL with Relic+1" or "full DL with Relic and Allagan belt + another accessory" or a couple of other possible variations. 5.8k could also mean this is a tank in half Allagan gear who put his stats into Strength instead of Vitality.

You'd have to be insanely full of yourself to think because someone has X HP then he is barred from progressing further than you. Turn 5 is an execution check. Whatever group manages to get the fight done perfectly will beat it, not whatever group has the best gear.

You're wrong, I had 5.8k pre defiance in a full party with 4 pieces of AK gear.

You can theory all you want about how "it's totally doable in AK gear" but no one who isn't min maxing to a ridiculous degree is going to be the first to beat this fight. Certainly not someone using AK gear.