Turn 5 Downed by JP Group? Exploits or Legit?

[Teloc]

We do not believe twisters are bugged in their current incarnation.

Well, SE does.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ister-mechanic

[Alkimi]

Many people I know flat out have no motivation to run coil past turn 4, which is probably the opposite effect SE intended

I think you can count most groups who have cleared 1-4 into that category. If even one group had beaten it legitimately then there would be a lot more motivation for others to try, but if the best players in the world are still wiping after 800 attempts then what's the point?

My group only plays around 3 hours a night, 4 days a week so the chances of us beating it are virtually nil.

[Senzura]

Well, SE does.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ister-mechanic

Accepted bugs does not mean confirmed bugs. Its just things they are going to look into.

[Gonzothegreat198]

I think you can count most groups who have cleared 1-4 into that category. If even one group had beaten it legitimately then there would be a lot more motivation for others to try, but if the best players in the world are still wiping after 800 attempts then what's the point?

My group only plays around 3 hours a night, 4 days a week so the chances of us beating it are virtually nil.

The way I see it though, even wiping that many times, you will have gotten everything to that point down pat. I see this as a perfectly good reason for new groups to run it past this point, yes you will be constantly wiping, but at least then you know the majority of the fight and will be able to complete that much easier when the bug is fixed, and if for some reason it's not a bug, you'll still be that much more ahead of the game when the encounter does end of being beaten.

[BigT]

Well, SE does.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ister-mechanic

A community rep responding to a thread does not imply SE recognizes it as a confirmed bug. Take a look at the other threads in that forum....

[Teloc]

It's ok, it is bugged. Anyone with a brain would see that. The fact that the same skill performs differently even though the player performs the exact same thing as last time. Worshiping SE and saying nothing is wrong will only hurt the game. SE bragging about the fact no one has killed it when there are bugs in the fight preventing people from killing it just makes them look bad. IE AV all over.

[MeowyWowie]

It's ok, it is bugged. Anyone with a brain would see that. The fact that the same skill performs differently even though the player performs the exact same thing as last time. Worshiping SE and saying nothing is wrong will only hurt the game. SE bragging about the fact no one has killed it when there are bugs in the fight preventing people from killing it just makes them look bad. IE AV all over.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't your FC say the same thing about divebombs? How come that is no longer an issue?

I don't have nearly as much experience on Twintania as you guys, nor do I claim to, but I just find it odd that you'd complain about the divebomb phase being bugged or broken or otherwise unpredictable, then somehow you're able to manage passing it without any hiccups and now you're complaining about the same exact thing, just a different phase of the fight.

[Xilrasis]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't your FC say the same thing about divebombs? How come that is no longer an issue?

I don't have nearly as much experience on Twintania as you guys, nor do I claim to, but I just find it odd that you'd complain about the divebomb phase being bugged or broken or otherwise unpredictable, then somehow you're able to manage passing it without any hiccups and now you're complaining about the same exact thing, just a different phase of the fight.

What do you find odd about it? We've never said that we suddenly believe it is working correctly and is no longer an issue. In fact, I'm of the opinion that the source of twister and divebomb problems are one and the same. Congratulations on recognizing that they are the exact same thing.

I'd wager money that any guilds consistently passing divebomb phase without hits are likely using the same cheesy "strategy".