WAR and Wrath: Important Mechanics Discussed.

[HiirNoivl]

15% Heal buff Wrath scales with the HP healed. The lower your HP goes the more valuable your Wrath V is to you. So before the split I'm not letting go of the 15%...

Using Infuriate is a no brainer after using IB. Especially in Turn IV as a main tank. But Yoshi P doesn't even go into Infuriate but explains combos instead.

The issue is coil not primals. Does he really think we have time to build wrath in Turn IV??

[Terabyt3]

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Also you're not gonna lose that 15% healing. You know when you're hit with Hoodswing. You know when you are healed. In the time after hoodswing you'd be insane not to use IB>Infuriate. Heal yourself for 1000+ and instantly get the 15% buff back before the next heal hits you.

Like I said earlier they clearly didn;t do enough testing with regards to the mechanics of coils and seperate classes.

Look at the preference of Ranged DPS compared to Melee. Apart from 1 for a single target LB why would you include anything other than ranged dps since it offers better dps in real terms due to the aoe boss mechanics.

It's the same for the tanks. WAR is harder at that level of incoming DPS. There's no two ways about it. They've just politley said "Yeah we done gone screwed up. For those that know this we're sorry. For those that don't try this to help alleviate the problems of warrior a little until 2.1 (and major class changes if they are looking at changing 7 things)".

[HiirNoivl]

Also you're not gonna lose that 15% healing. You know when you're hit with Hoodswing. You know when you are healed. In the time after hoodswing you'd be insane not to use IB>Infuriate. Heal yourself for 1000+...

Maybe if my WHMs weren't so geared then yeah it might be worth it.

In my case it's a waste of time.

[Terabyt3]

Maybe if my WHMs weren't so geared then yeah it might be worth it.

In my case it's a waste of time.

Not really. It's gonna either Alleviate 1000+ heals every 60 seconds for your healers making their life easier, Increase your dps by 5~ or more (average hit 300 every 60 seconds). Or when timed right BOTH.

[HiirNoivl]

Both strats are fine. I'm not saying you're wrong or something. You can do it if you want. But it's not like it'll win or lose you the fight.

I think we've gotten used to arguing. XD There's really nothing to argue about in this case.

[Terabyt3]

Nah you're right extra 5 dps isnt gonna make or break the fight really. If healers can keep you up without the extra 1k heals then doesnt matter

[mcfuzzi]

Well these folks have a vid of turn 4 being beat. 1 pld 1 war in hopelight. Not me, nor do I know these folks, I just found this link somewhere.
http://kaos-guild.enjin.com/

[Terabyt3]

Well these folks have a vid of turn 4 being beat. 1 pld 1 war in hopelight. Not me, nor do I know these folks, I just found this link somewhere.
http://kaos-guild.enjin.com/

Turn 4 is less to do with tanks and more to do with DPS race from start to finish.

Apart from having a PLD for MT to do the dreads that is

[mcfuzzi]

well i just see people all the time saying if your a war in coil your being carried blah blah blah.

Earlier in this very thread people were saying a war was useless in turn 4, well there is a vid of turn 4 going down, and that war is way under geared, they also have vids of turn 2. I dont get it, it can be done it has been done, I say who gives a crap, play with friends, have fun its a game after all, if I want stress Ill go to work.

I have tanked every part of this game up until now with members of my fc and in the df. Does that mean I am caring all of them up until now, I think not.

[PessimiStick]

well i just see people all the time saying if your a war in coil your being carried blah blah blah.

Earlier in this very thread people were saying a war was useless in turn 4, well there is a vid of turn 4 going down, and that war is way under geared, they also have vids of turn 2. I dont get it, it can be done it has been done, I say who gives a crap, play with friends, have fun its a game after all, if I want stress Ill go to work.

I have tanked every part of this game up until now with members of my fc and in the df. Does that mean I am caring all of them up until now, I think not.

There is a difference between OTing and MTing. Find a video with 2 WARs doing Turn 4. I would bet a substantial amount that you won't find one.