Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
Gotcha - does anyone have a good feel for what the break even point would need to move to to make it worth it? Like I asked in a previous post where I threw out the number 450?
It will depend on your build. If you're like Kunkka and have a Relic+1 and 423 strength, you're going to be closer to 450 for break-even with PLD on continuous basis. If you have just a relic and 320 strength, it'll be around 350 assuming full-on IB spam. For a quick sanity check on this ratio, remember that the bulk of mitigation comes from IB, and the first case has better than 30% more damage per swing than the second. The Wrath part scales directly with damage increase, meaning that it actually stays out of the ratio entirely -- 7% is 7% in any case. You effectively multiply out the IB damage increase to estimate new equivalence -- 350*1.3=455. These are not perfect estimates because the exact number will depend on true rotation, obviously. These are numbers also for continuous basis only, meaning you can't even use IB for burst mitigation, and they do not include concerted use of Berserk (assumed continuous) or any use of Bloodbath (would have to calculate PLD benefit as well). I have an old spreadsheet I could use to go for better estimates, but it needs improvement before it's ready for prime-time.

As a quick rule based on some preliminary calculations, you could just calculate damage-per-potency and multiply by 3.7. That definitely could use a bit more rigor, however, and I can imagine that more efficient continuous use of abilities would move it northward. I don't know how valuable such a calculation would be, though, as it would still rob you of your main burst mitigation.

(Either tank can last around 40 seconds without any assistance at 450 incoming DPS.)