"Fix Warrior" Threads

[Taemek]

The notion that Warriors want the same amount of mitigation as a Paladin is a joke, not only is the difference negible, it is a downright slap in the face to those who play Paladins and before you cry me a river that I play a Paladin, I play a Warrior.

Now that being said the hierachy of it goes like this:

Warrior = More HP to compensate the migation difference to a certain point. More DPS mechanically.
Paladin = More mitigation due to the use of a shield. Less DPS mechanically.

Warriors need to stop crying to be on par with Paladins, if you want to do that, drop your DPS. sacarfice your DPS cooldowns for survivability cool downs.

Warriors are more a DPS orientated off tank and can tank when needed, alas as I said, it takes more effort. I like having more DPS and burstey cooldowns with survivability then a Paladin, it is why I play one and it is how the class is designed.

I think most of us are just tired of hearing this same argument over and over again and unless you adapt and make it work, SE is going to ignore you in to your place.

[astrobear]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...racter/3227634

dude you arent even a lvl 10 mara, the WTF do you know about the WAR tank endgame problems?

[antiviolence]

The notion that Warriors want the same amount of mitigation as a Paladin is a joke, not only is the difference negible, it is a downright slap in the face to those who play Paladins and before you cry me a river that I play a Paladin, I play a Warrior.

We don't want it. We need it.

Warrior = More HP to compensate the migation difference to a certain point. More DPS mechanically.
Paladin = More mitigation due to the use of a shield. Less DPS mechanically.

Warriors need to stop crying to be on par with Paladins, if you want to do that, drop your DPS. sacarfice your DPS cooldowns for survivability cool downs.

Warriors are more a DPS orientated off tank and can tank when needed, alas as I said, it takes more effort. I like having more DPS and burstey cooldowns with survivability then a Paladin, it is why I play one and it is how the class is designed.

Proven time and again, the myth that warriors do more DPS and paladins deal less is "negligible" just like how you put it. If you're crying and whining about WARs going around crying and whining, then where does that put you? Perhaps you might wish to level a WAR or perhaps a healer to 50 and try actually doing the content that other players are discussing about.

[Caraway]

The notion that Warriors want the same amount of mitigation as a Paladin is a joke, not only is the difference negible, it is a downright slap in the face to those who play Paladins and before you cry me a river that I play a Paladin, I play a Warrior.

Now that being said the hierachy of it goes like this:

Warrior = More HP to compensate the migation difference to a certain point. More DPS mechanically.
Paladin = More mitigation due to the use of a shield. Less DPS mechanically.

Warriors need to stop crying to be on par with Paladins, if you want to do that, drop your DPS. sacarfice your DPS cooldowns for survivability cool downs.

Warriors are more a DPS orientated off tank and can tank when needed, alas as I said, it takes more effort. I like having more DPS and burstey cooldowns with survivability then a Paladin, it is why I play one and it is how the class is designed.

I think most of us are just tired of hearing this same argument over and over again and unless you adapt and make it work, SE is going to ignore you in to your place.

As a Warrior I don't want the same amount of mitigation as a Paladin. I do believe there's a few tweaks to be done to the Warrior so that we don't make things quite so hard for our Healer friends though.

I personally love being a Warrior. I love the concept of sustaining through self-heals by bashing in that guy over there's head with an axe.

I believe that putting the combo bonus to Storm's Eye (I believe that's the one... The one that used to give a mini-Bloodbath when combo'd into in Defiance stance) back would actually go a long way. No, the healing isn't a lot individually, but as you keep hammering out your attacks you're going to get a lot of little boosts to help ease the pounding you're undoubtably taking. Not to mention it'll make the Inner Beast heal that much bigger. Chaining that buff with a Bloodbath will net a lot of healing as well in an "Oh shit" moment too.

I'm actually rather curious as to why they removed the combo bonus (but left the ability card showing it).

[Kal-El]

The notion that Warriors want the same amount of mitigation as a Paladin is a joke, not only is the difference negible, it is a downright slap in the face to those who play Paladins and before you cry me a river that I play a Paladin, I play a Warrior.

Now that being said the hierachy of it goes like this:

Warrior = More HP to compensate the migation difference to a certain point. More DPS mechanically.
Paladin = More mitigation due to the use of a shield. Less DPS mechanically.

Warriors need to stop crying to be on par with Paladins, if you want to do that, drop your DPS. sacarfice your DPS cooldowns for survivability cool downs.

Sorry I love my WAR but everything you said there is false. Sacrifice DPS cooldowns?!?

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Terabyt3]

Sorry I love my WAR but everything you said there is false. Sacrifice DPS cooldowns?!?

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I think he means berserk maybe? Which is not as good as fight or flight... lol

It's clear he has no evidence and is blind to any of the research done on the matter so far.

[Leiron]

The notion that Warriors want the same amount of mitigation as a Paladin is a joke, not only is the difference negible,

The difference is about 10% between Shield oath and Defiance alone.
When you consider Paladin's cooldowns, being able to block, it becomes much greater.
Its not a matter of Paladin being easier, but a matter of Paladin being significantly better that there isn't a true reason to use it over a Warrior.

[firepixiedarien]

The notion that Warriors want the same amount of mitigation as a Paladin is a joke, not only is the difference negible, it is a downright slap in the face to those who play Paladins and before you cry me a river that I play a Paladin, I play a Warrior.

Warriors need to stop crying to be on par with Paladins, if you want to do that, drop your DPS. sacarfice your DPS cooldowns for survivability cool downs.

I think most of us are just tired of hearing this same argument over and over again and unless you adapt and make it work, SE is going to ignore you in to your place.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3090296/

Hi, I'm a Pally at 50 with relic, so my thoughts carry more weight than yours.

"WARs need a buff."

Thank you very much for your time Taemek.