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    Julianne Dragonhope
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBot View Post
    Ok, how about this, if you cancel your synth before taking any steps, you should receive all ingredients back?
    It's already like this right now actually. But if you take any steps, you auto fail when you cancel. Because the materials are "wrecked" at that point.
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    I'm a crafter Jim, not a Warrior! I don't want to fight as a Warrior just to be able to craft!

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    Janx Peregrym
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    Thats strange, because earlier today I canceled a synth immediately after starting it, not taking any steps and it ate my mats...
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    Wulfies Mightypaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miq2 View Post
    While it may seem like a small fix this would require a re-balance on many of the skills that have charges. Currently you need to find a good rotation that plays well with the buffs you have, learning to use the skills at the right time or right order is part of it.
    +1 to Miq2. They have made crafting an "art" gotta get the right mix so that your skills work together. Without this, every Tom, Dick, and Harry would be lvl 50.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zareth View Post
    It's already like this right now actually. But if you take any steps, you auto fail when you cancel. Because the materials are "wrecked" at that point.
    Accidentally started a synth and tried to cancel but lost the mats. was pissed, so there should be a cancel/reclaim all mats if no actions were done. So, maybe you got luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBot View Post
    Ok, how about this, if you cancel your synth before taking any steps, you should receive all ingredients back?
    In case there is any confusion as to whether or not you will receive your materials back after cancelling mid-synthesis, we created the following to help illustrate the various outcomes of the system.
    • Cancel while preparing to craft (Haven't used any actions yet)
      →All materials will be returned to your inventory.

    • Cancel while in mid-craft (After performing even a single action)
      →All materials will be lost. This is to ensure that you cannot cancel when it looks like you are going to fail.

    • Durability reaches 0
      →There is a chance that materials will be returned to your inventory at a set rate
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    Synra Nightwalker
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    Okay, I can understand your logic, but let me explain my logic here. While waiting for a DF que, one of the things I do to pass the time is craft. As I work, I get more and more into it. I might even find myself attempting an HQ combine with a bunch of HQ materials. And then right after I start crafting, my DF pops. Now I am in trouble. I can't cancel my crafting or you guys delete all of those valuable materials. I can't withdraw from the DF, because it could have easily been a 30+ minute wait (I waited 85 minutes once). The only other option is to hurry up and rush through the crafting process, so I can switch classes and accept the dungeon prompt. But then I might accidently use a wrong ability at the wrong time and mess myself up.

    So while I understand why you did the above, the fact is, I would REALLY appreciate the ability to just cancel my combine without losing my materials, so that I can quickly take that dungeon pop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synra View Post
    So while I understand why you did the above, the fact is, I would REALLY appreciate the ability to just cancel my combine without losing my materials, so that I can quickly take that dungeon pop.
    It's called "level your Culinary to 50 and take Reclaim for a non-Steady Hands affected 90% chance of getting your mats back". Or you know, don't do important craft while queuing for DF? Cancelling crafting before you use any abilities still restores your mats as Okipuit mentioned.
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    Skeksis Poloma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synra View Post
    Okay, I can understand your logic, but let me explain my logic here. While waiting for a DF que, one of the things I do to pass the time is craft. As I work, I get more and more into it. I might even find myself attempting an HQ combine with a bunch of HQ materials. And then right after I start crafting, my DF pops. Now I am in trouble. I can't cancel my crafting or you guys delete all of those valuable materials. I can't withdraw from the DF, because it could have easily been a 30+ minute wait (I waited 85 minutes once). The only other option is to hurry up and rush through the crafting process, so I can switch classes and accept the dungeon prompt. But then I might accidently use a wrong ability at the wrong time and mess myself up.

    So while I understand why you did the above, the fact is, I would REALLY appreciate the ability to just cancel my combine without losing my materials, so that I can quickly take that dungeon pop.
    Yeah that scenario you mentioned really isn't worth allowing abuse of crafting.
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    Ramza Beoulve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synra View Post
    Okay, I can understand your logic, but let me explain my logic here. While waiting for a DF que, one of the things I do to pass the time is craft. As I work, I get more and more into it. I might even find myself attempting an HQ combine with a bunch of HQ materials. And then right after I start crafting, my DF pops. Now I am in trouble. I can't cancel my crafting or you guys delete all of those valuable materials. I can't withdraw from the DF, because it could have easily been a 30+ minute wait (I waited 85 minutes once). The only other option is to hurry up and rush through the crafting process, so I can switch classes and accept the dungeon prompt. But then I might accidently use a wrong ability at the wrong time and mess myself up.


    So while I understand why you did the above, the fact is, I would REALLY appreciate the ability to just cancel my combine without losing my materials, so that I can quickly take that dungeon pop.
    How about an option to 'PAUSE' your synth? When you return from the DF, you must resume your synth the next time you go to synth with that particular crafting job. I think many of us have been in a similar situation to yours and realize the frustration.
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    Cynric Zerr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synra View Post
    Okay, I can understand your logic, but let me explain my logic here...snip!
    It's a choice you made to craft while waiting on df. If you do not want to miss a df pop or waste valuable mats then simply don't do expensive synths during your wait. And df gives you a full minute anyway and changing jobs is a one-click function. I don't really see a conflict here worthy enough of making crafting abuse rampant.
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synra View Post
    Okay, I can understand your logic, but let me explain my logic here. While waiting for a DF que, one of the things I do to pass the time is craft. As I work, I get more and more into it. I might even find myself attempting an HQ combine with a bunch of HQ materials. And then right after I start crafting, my DF pops. Now I am in trouble. I can't cancel my crafting or you guys delete all of those valuable materials. I can't withdraw from the DF, because it could have easily been a 30+ minute wait (I waited 85 minutes once). The only other option is to hurry up and rush through the crafting process, so I can switch classes and accept the dungeon prompt. But then I might accidently use a wrong ability at the wrong time and mess myself up.

    So while I understand why you did the above, the fact is, I would REALLY appreciate the ability to just cancel my combine without losing my materials, so that I can quickly take that dungeon pop.
    Sorry I've been in the same boat while crafting and waiting for DF and I'll eat the extra 30min+ wait time if I'm crafting something of value with HQ items.

    The only thing that would be nice is some sort of Crafting Pause system incase you DC it would keep your progress. But not reset your progress and let you start over cause people would abuse it if they were going to fail a synth.
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