It's so easy to blame the Healer!!

[Al_Harrington]

That one is your fault then. If you let the bees come straight to you without casting A. Surecast B. (divine) Medica II C. Shroud of Saints D. Almost anything besides letting yourself get three hit. A WHM Can tank the bees by self healing alone. But yeah I do get the intent of the post. A Tank can be horrible and blame everyone but himself because he just wants a WHM to keep him topped off. Besides Medica 2 being used on the party during wall I don't heal anyone but myself. You shouldn't have to if the party is doing their own job correctly.

[Kismet]

That one is your fault then. If you let the bees come straight to you without casting A. Surecast B. (divine) Medica II C. Shroud of Saints D. Almost anything besides letting yourself get three hit. A WHM Can tank the bees by self healing alone. But yeah I do get the intent of the post. A Tank can be horrible and blame everyone but himself because he just wants a WHM to keep him topped off. Besides Medica 2 being used on the party during wall I don't heal anyone but myself. You shouldn't have to if the party is doing their own job correctly.

Idiot. He's a Scholar. OH NOES U DIDNT CAST ALL THE WHM ABILITIS IT IZ UR FAULT! BAD HEALER IS BAD! MANY HEELS CAST THEM.

[DenzelTaru]

Idiot. He's a Scholar. OH NOES U DIDNT CAST ALL THE WHM ABILITIS IT IZ UR FAULT! BAD HEALER IS BAD! MANY HEELS CAST THEM.

lol love it

I have always said that if i was a whm the wall would probably be easier MedicaII like a baws!

Faery is too stupid on the wall, just sits in the purple, i think they should make it, if they are on heel and you don't take damage they shouldn't, fair enough if they are placed or you are late with your run, but she'll just sit there trying to swim in the purple sludge lol.

But yes, it was my fault, i did forget to cast invincibility on the party before we went in lol

Hi TC,

Based on the information provided, if the DPS don't readjust to the situation of the tank falling and the wall wasn't down enough where their damage could kill it, then you cannot be blamed for the party's defeat. In an incident like that, the remaining party would all need to take corrective action, as no one individual can turn the fight around in a fatal incident.

yea they had plenty of time to react as the bees went to my faery first

[Rissy]

Faery is too stupid on the wall, just sits in the purple, i think they should make it, if they are on heel and you don't take damage they shouldn't, fair enough if they are placed or you are late with your run, but she'll just sit there trying to swim in the purple sludge lol.

Just Place her in the middle. Heavy isn't going to hurt her much, it's Slow that gets annoying.

[DenzelTaru]

Just Place her in the middle.

Good tip thanks, will try.. only problem is repel i guess, too focused on sorting out members to replace her

it also means that tanks have a more difficult time keeping agro because the healer has to go crazy with healing spells.

Not Really.. I never take hate as a healer.. I am quite confident then with saying that a good healer will not take hate (or minimal hate) all dependant on the tank of course. It's mages who spam medica who take the hate, over healing everyone.

I proved my point in a lowbie dungeon, running with FC friends and a DF healer, the healer kept stealing hate cos every time more than one person took damage they cast medica and then cos they got hit they cast medica again.. and again..Then next time I switch to my CNJ. I never took hate and throughout the whole dungeon I only used Medica once, I even dps'd the whole thing and took no hate!

[Alavastre]

Good tip thanks, will try.. only problem is repel i guess, too focused on sorting out members to replace her


Not Really.. I never take hate as a healer.. I am quite confident then with saying that a good healer will not take hate (or minimal hate) all dependant on the tank of course. It's mages who spam medica who take the hate, over healing everyone.

Actually, if you go full blast on healing, you can easily pull aggro when there are multiple adds. Not a big deal with single target. If there any adds, you'll be pulling some threat if you go full out. At least as a WHM. This can be mitigated if you're careful and watch the threat bars.

Lukcily I've been grouping with other WHM's that keep regen on the tank. So they get the adds for me.

[JonFarron]

That one is your fault then. If you let the bees come straight to you without casting A. Surecast B. (divine) Medica II C. Shroud of Saints D. Almost anything besides letting yourself get three hit. A WHM Can tank the bees by self healing alone.

Yes, because Scholars have Medica II and Shroud of Saints too.


*facepalm* did you even read it? e.e. "bees went straight to me, 3 shotted me, well to fairy and then me"

[Jyoeru]

This conversation happened to me today in ST:

Tank: Yo, healer you need to beef up healing
Me: We wiped because y'all stood in fire
Tank: I mean don't you have cure II/III?
Me: Yeah, and I use cure II.
Tank: Odd, I keep seeing Cure I. I don't think you're using Cure II.
Me: I use it when you need it. Otherwise I use Cure I to proc free Cure II, and it is more mana efficient. I assume you have never healed ever.

We eventually got past the conflict.

Of further interest: I am a healer. Sleeping a mob counts as healing for me. In fact, putting a mob to sleep is the cheapest and strongest heal I have. I wish tanks/DPS would stop trying to faceroll the content and pay attention to what the healers are doing.

[DenzelTaru]

Of further interest: I am a healer. Sleeping a mob counts as healing for me. In fact, putting a mob to sleep is the cheapest and strongest heal I have. I wish tanks/DPS would stop trying to faceroll the content and pay attention to what the healers are doing.

I had no idea WHM had sleep lol.. I was BLM so I was the sleeper, then I FATEd my ACN to 30 so I could get SCH and be the healer myself. So now that I am a tank and I was seeing sleeps happening without a THM i was so confused lol.

But you are right, sleep is a great spell and needs to be utilized

[Celsius]

That one is your fault then. If you let the bees come straight to you without casting A. Surecast B. (divine) Medica II C. Shroud of Saints D. Almost anything besides letting yourself get three hit. A WHM Can tank the bees by self healing alone. But yeah I do get the intent of the post. A Tank can be horrible and blame everyone but himself because he just wants a WHM to keep him topped off. Besides Medica 2 being used on the party during wall I don't heal anyone but myself. You shouldn't have to if the party is doing their own job correctly.

My head hurts from all the desk