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    The current battle system mainly calculate everything from Your Rank vs Mob Rank

    I really doubt what was Team Tanaka did in the past 5 years?

    Your thought?
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    I really doubt it work in that way instead. Where is your proof ? And i mean concrete maths, not some "it's clear"
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    I really doubt it work in that way instead. Where is your proof ? And i mean concrete maths, not some "it's clear"
    He's not a person to ask proof from, you won't get it. The only thing that's obvious is stats are unbalanced which logically mean, rank vs rank difference will be greater than it should be.
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    No proof needed. Its 1. Obvious and 2. Already proven. Kaeko did the math somewhere.

    Need a field test? Go fight any HNM with a Lv1 weapon then switch to a Lv45+ weapon. Same damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    No proof needed. Its 1. Obvious and 2. Already proven. Kaeko did the math somewhere.

    Need a field test? Go fight any HNM with a Lv1 weapon then switch to a Lv45+ weapon. Same damage.
    that isnt a field test, NMs often have different properties, who knows what the situation is there. I have however seen test runs on actual monsters where there is a noticeable difference in damage with attack and strength. Being that i have seen this, at worst the equation is more complex than you assume it to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    No proof needed. Its 1. Obvious and 2. Already proven. Kaeko did the math somewhere.

    Need a field test? Go fight any HNM with a Lv1 weapon then switch to a Lv45+ weapon. Same damage.
    That's exaclty the response i DON'T want. Math or gtfo
    He's not a person to ask proof from, you won't get it. The only thing that's obvious is stats are unbalanced which logically mean, rank vs rank difference will be greater than it should be.
    It's not a mystery stats are broken, so obliusly the rank difference it's the major source of damage. but still, if she say that as it's setten on stone, i want a proper formula
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    No proof needed. Its 1. Obvious and 2. Already proven. Kaeko did the math somewhere.

    Need a field test? Go fight any HNM with a Lv1 weapon then switch to a Lv45+ weapon. Same damage.
    quoting this again because people can't read.

    this isnt directing to anyone but, u can try tanking current NM with r45, come back later when you are r50. you can bring friends with different ranks to test stuff out really easy, but like most of the posters in this forum. Most arent even playing or past r40. So..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    quoting this again because people can't read.
    Or because there's a lot more to it than just using a different ranked weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    quoting this again because people can't read.

    this isnt directing to anyone but, u can try tanking current NM with r45, come back later when you are r50. you can bring friends with different ranks to test stuff out really easy, but like most of the posters in this forum. Most arent even playing or past r40. So..
    The one who can't read are you. Everyone is bringing valid reasons, until something like you , evangela or kuro bring in this empiric sh*t.
    Yes, rank vs rank it's the major factor in damage formula, BUT because stats aren't working. And when something isn't working, how your point is any good ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    quoting this again because people can't read.

    this isnt directing to anyone but, u can try tanking current NM with r45, come back later when you are r50. you can bring friends with different ranks to test stuff out really easy, but like most of the posters in this forum. Most arent even playing or past r40. So..
    Actually no. I tanked Uraeus at Lv48 and Lv50 with the exact same gear. The difference was night and day. A much bigger difference than it should be. Also when I was fighting it at 48 we did another attempt with bronze gear... Same exact damage.

    Edit: Is that the same Apple Pie from Beta on Wutai? I played Sagara Sousuke. lol
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    Last edited by Kurokikaze; 05-10-2011 at 10:58 PM.

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